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This project everyone is laughing at actually accomplished what was probably it's only goal. I was alerted to proof of systemd's priorities. I mean I already knew but nothing beats a good solid action when it comes to trying to say it to anyone else.

I'm not sure I'm parsing what you're writing correctly. What?

They added an optional date of birth field to a user directory. Are you mad at LDAP for contributing to the surveillance state?

Folks have absolutely lost the plot on this one. These laws are stupid, this implementation is fine. Be mad at your legislators, being mad at some swedish guy won't help you any.


Clearly they also cook and serve fried chicken.

No. It's certainly not a goal. And even if it can somehow happen, soneone could be resigned or drugged, it's different from something like "happy to die".

This question itself seems to be a perfect example of the point that the word is worse than meaningless. Worse because people use it like it has a useful meaning.

One can die in a state that has a lot of the qualities or features that overlap with other states that people call happy, but that doesn't make them equal or equivalent.


What emotion must people be feeling when they die then?

> the word is worse than meaningless

It seems as though you are redefining it to be meaningless, then projecting that onto everyone else. Is it not curious to you that everyone else takes no issue with its usage?


What is your definition of happy?

Ambiguous, mutable, and context-sensitive.

It was unhackable while it mattered. It was hacked 5 years after it no longer mattered. And all but the effectively beta release remain unhacked even now.

I loved Jennifer Government (Max Barry) wayyyy back.

Then you can charge him with the crime of contempt, and allow that charge to be proven or disproven through actual due process.

There is no such thing as a valid reason to skip the part where you have to prove guilt. Even for a judge. Frankly especially for a judge. Everyone else has the excuse that they aren't lawyers. What's a judges excuse?


Per a different article, he pled guilty to the contempt charge: https://apnews.com/article/tommy-thompson-gold-coins-shipwre...

It sounds like that was a different contempt charge.

You can't prove or disprove anything with someone who refuses to comply with the courts. This is due process.

Exactly. Seeing as there is no presumption of innocence in the US and the burden of proof is the defendant’s, it makes sense that a judge can put anyone in jail indefinitely without proving anything. If he had died in prison it would have been due process because contempt is meant to be so punitive that it acts as a deterrent to any other person that sets foot in a court room from refusing to be compelled into making self-incriminatory statements.

Now obviously this entire line of reasoning would be completely nullified if there were examples to the contrary or if any of the things mentioned had been adjudicated before but


> Seeing as there is no presumption of innocence in the US

Wait, what? Have you served on a criminal jury in the US? There most definitely is a presumption of innocence, and the judge will remind the jury of this multiple times in the course of the trial.

The burden is on the prosecution (I.e. the state) to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Source: jury duty.


That might be what they tell you, now explain to me how this guy was presumed innocent and jailed for 10 years.

No your explicitly not required provide testimony against yourself the fifth amendment should absolutely override any "contempt" bullshit of him being willing to incriminate himself.

You absolutely can conduct a process to determine if one is actually guilty of that accusation the same as any other accusation, and you should, which is why it's called due process.

There are no valid fiat decrees. Everything must be somehow defensible.

The crime is not simply failing to do what a judge said. Even judges are not gods. The crime is failing to do something that they had the power to do, and that the judge or the state had the right to demand. And both of those are as arguable as anything else.


> You can't prove or disprove anything with someone who refuses to comply with the courts.

I don't understand how someone could even think this.

Suppose he stole the loot and refuses to say where it is, but he really put it in a bank safe deposit box. The bank teller remembers him coming into the bank with a big pile of loot and then leaving without it, so you use the teller's statement to get a warrant to search the box, get the camera footage from the bank, etc. There are many ways to prove something without the suspect's cooperation.

How is the alternative supposed to work? The judge tells you to answer a question you'd only know the answer to if you were actually guilty and then you stay in jail for as long as you don't answer it? What are you supposed to do if you're innocent?


> You can't prove or disprove anything with someone who refuses to comply with the courts.

Huge citation needed.

Also all you would have to prove is that they're refusing to comply. How disobedient can they really get without proof existing?


I feel like I'm going crazy that anyone tries to suggest the AI and the producers and promulgators and apologists of AI played no part and bear none of the responsibility in this narrative.

Because the responsibility lies on the part of the criminal justice system who used the flimsy AI facial recognition evidence to arrest and hold her for months. If AI didn't exist, and this same incident happened because a human looked at a photograph of the woman and said "I think this might be the same person who committed the crime in the video", it would be insane to blame the people who invented photographs or video recording for her arrest.

The problem is in how these tools are sold to them. Not everybody can be an expert in every topic. Like in every other application area, these AI systems are promoted as being able to do about a thousand times more, and a million times more reliably, than they actually are. Of course the departments can be expected to do some due diligence and instruct their officers, but the lies by AI system suppliers is where a large part of the blame belongs. Manufacturers of cameras or CCTV systems never told the police department that the system would do their job for them.

And a lot more people use github for something at all and don't use Apple for anything at all.

The entire Apple universe is smaller than the world or even just the github part of the world, and the Apple developer universe is a tiny fraction of even just the Apple universe.


> The entire Apple universe is smaller than the world or even just the github part of the world

As of 2023, GitHub had 100M active users total.

As of a decade ago (2016) Apple already had 782 million total iCloud users, with 73% or 570 million of them authenticated to iCloud.

By 2023, Apple has 973 million paying subscribers.


But the article isn't about people who do the speaking or what their reasons or real meanings are, it's about people who like hearing it.


It's nothing.

For the global ones that need admin permissions to edit, it's no different from all the other code of mediawiki itself like the php.

For the user scripts, it's no worse than the fact that you can run tampermonkey in your browser and have it modify every page from evry site in whatever way your want.


Well it has just been shown it's not nothing


No it hasn't.


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