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That sounds dubious. The government's actual approval rating in Russia is, what, 5 percent? I remember watching a report about how people in Russia were literally jailed for giving the "wrong" answer to a street poll.

So, I suppose if they could somehow use money and influence to determine election results, they would use it in Russia, no?

So, I think the civilizational threat from Russia is about the same as from North Korea: nearly zero.


Russia's infinitration is long done. The brakes are cut and the cars moving down a steep hill. Putin can just sit back and watch the chaos ensue if he wants.

> Why not?

This implies the creation of an infrastructure for the total surveillance of citizens, unlike age verification by physical businesses.


Spell it out: how do ID checks for specific services (where the laws I've read all require no records be retained with generally steep penalties) create an infrastructure for total surveillance? Can't sites just not keep records like they do in person and like the law mandates? Can't in-person businesses keep records and share that with whomever you're worried about?

How do you reconcile porn sites as a line in the sand with things like banking or online real estate transactions or applying for an apartment already performing ID checks? The verification infrastructure is already in place. It's mundane. In fact the apartment one is probably more offensive because they'll likely make you do their online thing even if you could just walk in and show ID.


>create an infrastructure for total surveillance

I mean, we're talking about age verification in the OS itself in some of these laws, so tell me how it doesn't.

Quantity is a quality. We're not just seeing it for porn, it's moving to social media in general. Politicians are already talking about it for all sites that allow posts, that would include this site.

So you tell me.


App and website developers having liability is an alternative to OS controls. Mandatory OS controls are OS/device manufacturers having liability. I agree that's a poor idea, and actually said as much like a year ago pointing out that this California bill was the awful alternative when people were against bills like the one from Texas. It's targeting the wrong party and creates burdens on everyone even if you don't care about porn or social media.

No, in the CA law OS controls are part and parcel with app and website developer liability.

They're separate concepts. Clearly, obviously, mandating OS controls is creating liability for OS providers, not service operators. Other states do liability for providers without mandating some other party get involved.

California is also stupid for creating liability for service/app providers that don't even deal in age restricted apps, like calculators or maps. It's playing right into the "this affects the whole Internet/all of computing" narrative when in fact it's really a small set of businesses that are causing issues and should be subject to regulation.


Knowing if the user's over 18 doesn't imply total surveillance, it only implies a user profile setting that says if they're over 18.

It implies that the user has access to the technical infrastructure that supports age verification. Sucks to be you, if you can't afford a recent Apple or Android device to run the AgeVerification app.

There is also the problem of mission creep. Once the infrastructure is in place, to control access to age-restricted content, other services might become out of reach. In particular, anonymous usage of online forums might no longer be possible.


That technical infrastructure: a drop-down menu on the user's account settings

The EU Digital Wallet requires hardware attestation so only it only works on locked-down government-approved OSes. That opens the door for government control of all electronic devices.

What a shame. The California one is just an input box.

Do you know what the word "infrastructure" means?

Do you know what "total surveillance" means? It doesn't mean a checkbox for over 18

I can't tell if this is a troll or not.

OS-level ability to verify the age of the person using it absolutely provides infrastructure for the OS to verify all sorts of other things. Citizenship, identity, you name it. When it's at the OS level there's no way to do anything privately on that machine ever again.


I agree that a checkbox for if the user is over 18 opens the door to a checkbox for if the user is a citizen and even a textbox for the user's full name (which already exists on Linux so you better boycott Debian now!). I don't see how such input fields are "total surveillance".

> new coal plants

3 cents per kwh

> more nuclear or renewable generation

20 cents per kwh

> What excuse actually is there

A sevenfold price difference is a pretty significant excuse, don't you think?


> if you can’t ignore externalities, people have strong incentives to use less

Or vote for those who promise to cancel all of this.


Yes, that’s definitely a risk when there’s a huge industry pumping out agitprop saying we don’t need to act. I think the original proposal was wise to structure it as an income tax refund so people would see a regular positive benefit.


> It's laughable mathematical fantasy

I mean 2.5 / 3.4 = ~ 75%. A measly 75% tariffs will allow the abolition of income tax.


> Used to be that America was great because the smartest researchers in the world wanted to come here, often escaping oppressive regimes to do so, and become American citizens (e.g., Albert Einstein)

By this measure, America is now greater than ever.

Of course, it's convenient to pretend that Trump is building a racist dictatorship with a Gestapo, and that's why no one wants to move to the US. But the true is that the number of people around the world who would like to move to the US is higher than ever. Especially when the current administration is trying to purge society of foreign criminals.

> So now all the world’s best and brightest scientists will move to China

Yes, of course. It's practically the same thing. The only reason scientists go to China is because they are not allowed into the US.


There are a lot of leaps in this comment


So build an argument against it. I think hes right, so if you claim he is making leaps, feel free to fill in rhe gaps?


I’ll fill in the gaps. I didn’t initially want to respond to that person because they are MAGA-brained.

Basically, their whole comment is based on non-factual information.

US is discouraging talent by revoking student visas, China is offering more funding and incentives while the US has flat federal funding with future cuts likely: https://e360.yale.edu/digest/china-europe-us-scientists

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/science-resea...

China produces more research in top journals than the US: https://quincyinst.org/research/chinas-historic-rise-to-the-...

The commenter claimed that there’s no ICE Gestapo, and that this administration is deporting criminals, but 74% of detainees have no criminal convictions and only 5% have any violent criminal record: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-ice-detainees-have-violent-convi...

ICE told officers in a memo to disregard due process and the 4th amendment:

https://apneas.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-...

Undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than US citizens:

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG...

More people are moving out of the US than moving in for the first time since the Great Depression: https://fortune.com/2026/02/27/trump-immigration-crackdown-w...

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-08-22/la-na-im...

I have no link for this one, but it’s worth pointing out that educated immigrants likely have the most options on where they want to live. They’re not in the same situation as a day laborer hopping the border to the closest country that has work available. The US doesn’t have to be a bad option available for that kind of person to say “nah, I’ll go somewhere else.” It just has to be a less good option with enough negative aspects, and they’ll say, eff that, I’m going to find a position in Germany/Netherlands/China/etc.


Putin has nuclear weapons. What does he have to fear?


An assassination.


> Imperialism always prefers to deal with theocracies rather than communists.

Communist regimes are also a form of theocracy (proof can be found in the writings of any communist leader). It's just that, unlike other theocratic regimes, other countries have to deal with millions of starving refugees (because the communist faith requires banning food production or something like that, I don't know much about their religion).


> your fellow citizens to get killed by a foreign Power so that your political views can prevail

What does the assassination of DICTATORS have to do with all of this? Dictatorship is less about citizenship and more about a form of slavery. Resisting the killing of a dictator in any way, regardless of who is trying to kill him or why, is treason to a nation.


People don't agree on what a dictator looks like.


The correlation between mortality and body mass index is striking.


Maybe the President should have taken that into account when lying publicly about the impacts that he admitted in private conversation, or mocking and undermining expert advice?


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Fauci injected money into the economy? Who was the President at the time?


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