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> fire arm rate is 12X

Add explosives, hand grenades, kidnapping...

US does not have a big problem with organized crime!


this is one of those statements that is too ambiguous for the internet. It's hard to know if you are being sarcastic? Attempting satire? Or you are trying to make a joke, or genuinely don't know what you are talking about. So, can you clarify?


No I am serious, if you are comparing murders, you should include all weapons!

There are regional differences! Fire arms are heavily regulated and relatively hard to get in EU. We are close to war zones, hand grenades are easier to smuggle, and are used in Sweden.

If you include murders by knife, London is worse than US!

Edit: also you wrote "assault" that could include anything from armed robbery without health injury, to self defense. Apples and oranges!


ok I've updated it to show that I mean "fatal" assault by firearms.

Quick google search brings up the following "All in all, there were 77 incidents of detonated hand grenades in Sweden during the six-year observation period, in which nine individuals were injured and one killed."

is this what you are talking about? Doesn't sound that dramatic.

Seems like you are just trolling. Especially with the throwaway account, hard to take what you are saying seriously.


Try to stay there for a month, in shady part of town! Current goverment is at least trying to police those places!


I lived in Hjulsta for ten months. Statistics don't get worse than that. I was usually the only white person out after dark. Twice people rang on my door in the morning because I forgot my key out in the door over night. I moved away because it was too far from my workplace. Best supermarkets in the entire town though!


I've lived several months in an area considered to be one of the worst in Sweden, zero problems whatsoever.

The standard for bad in Sweden is just pretty damn high.


My friend looks basically like an Iranian (very dark wavy hair and dark eyes, but somewhat pale skin), even though he is a Czech, and lives in Stockholm. He saw blond people harassed multiple times.

He says "I am quite lucky that the worst individuals consider me 'one of their own' and leave me alone. This means that I can take the metro without any precautions. But blonde girls that work with me started preferring safer commute to the office a long time ago."


My first hand anecdotes; we let our kids ride subways on their own in Stockholm from about 9 years old. Everyone I know use public transport, I have never heard anyone complain about this!

Subways are safe. EDIT: I am sure there are problems I am not saying it is perfect


Did you also experience bomb attacks? Apparently, there were over 100 bomb attacks in Sweden this year. Our Eastern European country has twice the size of Sweden's population, and we had zero bombs going off, possibly since the 90s, as I don't remember any. Gun violence is really low here too, we barely remember any that made the news.

I'm sure that Sweden is a nice country to live in, I've visited it, seems great, but ignoring the crime wave is short-sighted, and I don't understand what “high standard” you're talking about.


I live in an area where there has been gang related gun violence and bombings; there are no neighborhoods around here where I feel unsafe. No one is ignoring it but sadly the current affairs are being used as a political tool to remove freedoms and further far right agendas. I do not know where you are from but lets say; Romania they have done an amazing job the last 30 years their homicide rate per capita has at times managed to drop below our current levels.

The high standard means that there is actually still a functioning society there with stability, security and trust in police and government. While we do have problems with the money generated from drug trade and other crimes.


This seems to be a problem though for migrants who go to a country from a "worse" place.

"The standard for bad here isn't bad" because it was worse elsewhere. Where I live in the US we have this too where migrants who have come here don't see anything bad because where they are from was worse.

They don't see what those of us that have been here from birth have seen. That standards are sliding. Yes, for you the migrant coming from a poorer place, this place is richer. But for me the native this place has become poorer.

And talking about and suggesting we need to stop the backslide gets an eye-roll from the enablers.


What area exactly? I honestly as a swede do not believe you.


I understand that you find it hard to believe with your strong right-wing lean, given that it doesn't really fit your narrative.


I have lived in Stockholm since 2012 and haven't felt worried about going to any particular part of town. Which part should I check out?


Akalla/Husby and Tensta/Rinkeby used to be pretty wild when I grew up there.


Can you provide a list of which parts of which towns are shady, so I can avoid them?


I moved - sorry, immigrated - to Stockholm end of 2016.

At that time the sensationalist media was reporting on 'no-go zones' - parts of town that even the police were too afraid to go to.

One night I was sitting on the subway when a guy came and sat down opposite a girl, and started telling her he was gonna go check out one of these 'no-go zones'. His destination was östermalm.


Sounds like an awful place.

From wikipedia.

"Elegant Östermalm is known for its smart bars and restaurants on Stureplan square, and its cultural venues, such as the Swedish History Museum, displaying Viking weapons. Designer boutiques dot the area near Östermalms Saluhall, a food market known for traditional specialties like gravlax and smoked shrimp. Centered on the imposing National Library of Sweden, tranquil Humlegården park hosts plays in summer."


You can do the same for anywhere. For example Tenderloin:

"Tenderloin in San Francisco is known for its cultural diversity - home to micro-neighborhoods representing the Vietnamese, Thai, Korean, Pakistani, Central Asian, and Yemeni communities. There is a bustling cultural scene with numerous live jazz bars, theaters where bands like The Rolling Stones and Beatles have headlined, and museums highlighting the historical numerous LGBT+ community".

That said, Östermalm didn't feel bad when I visited. I think op is confusing Östermalm and Östberga.


I heard Östermalm correctly - it was a vivid memory and where I worked at the time. Reading about "no-go zones" was fresh in my mind.

I remember thinking "Really? Where the Bentley dealership is?" Good luck finding graffiti there, let alone circumstances rough enough to scare the cops away.


Yea must have been a joke or an actual ignorant tourist. When I was there it seemed the less well off areas tended to be extremely cut off from the rest of Stockholm too.

I made an actual effort to go to Tensta when I was there (it's hard to find good Levantine food in the US) and it definetly felt dislocated. Very much like a purposely created ghetto. Like Visitation Valley and Bayview in San Francisco.


Östermalm is the most bourgeois area in central Stockholm. It’s the kind of place where the weekly supermarket offers are for lobster and caviar instead of chicken breast or potatoes. Certainly not dangerous by any standard. Must’ve been a joke that went over op’s head or a misunderstanding.


I guess it's a joke. Östermalm is very unlikely to be counted as a typical no-go zone. The joke is that every area of town can have weird people after dark


Östermalm is extremely posh, it's definitely not a problem area.


https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/three-new-districts-added-t...

I would stay there, I travel on budget, I am used to it from Cairo, and I am not female...


There are no safe parts. The gangs have blown up explosives all over. This is about 1 km from where I grew up:

https://images.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/7804ea1d-2a5b-4b...


> 15-year-old Hassan... region of Pakistan.

That is not underage work in Pakistan! "Respected" jurnalists should bother to do minimal research! I wish I had similar gig, instead of working for 50 cents/hour at building site!

> Article 11.3 of the Constitution of Pakistan says " No child below the age of fourteen years shall be engaged in any factory or mine or any other hazardous employment.

https://paycheck.pk/labour-laws/fair-treatment/minors-and-yo...


Depends on the nature of the work, though?

> Hassan recalls moderating content while under 18 on UHRS that, he says, continues to weigh on his mental health. He says the content was explicit: accounts of rape incidents, lifted from articles quoting court records; hate speech from social media posts; descriptions of murders from articles; sexualized images of minors; naked images of adult women; adult videos of women and girls from YouTube and TikTok.


It’s not underage work in the US either.


They are using 'underage' as a synonym for 'minor'. The article is not about the legality of employment.


They are using “underage” because it baits your clicks. The article isn’t about a real problem, the problem it was trying to solve is how to keep their employees paid.


“Underage” means the person is too young to do the work, whether in a legal or moral sense. A 15 year old doing computer work is neither.


"Underage" doesn't really mean just that, it's ambiguous and arguably misused in this context.

A 15 year old doing computer work is neither.

That's just your own unrelated gloss on the article.

Is this the greatest of title or word choice? Probably not. It's not particularly hard to figure out what it intends to say.


Per the article, the companies' rules are to only hire persons 18+, but folks under 18 can easily lie and get hired.

They may not be underage to work in construction, but they are technically "underage" for the company requirements.


That may depend on the state and the time of day.


Not best approach, some places are empty outside of narrow tourist season.


Yet another reason to skip US on travel. In EU I may get like extra 3 euro council tax for staying at hotel.

In US even basic stuff, like going to restaurant for dinner, is "an experience" that requires reservation and generous bakshish.


> In EU I may get like extra 3 euro council tax for staying at hotel.

I do hate those taxes not being included in the price, and I complain every time :)


Feral cats are very similar to rats. They eat garbage, spread disease and destroy wildlife.


But they don't invade your home.


They sure poop next to it for sure though


I am not sure this is legal in my country!

In Czechia "release" is a legal act done by author(or right holder). You can do it by uploading code on Github etc.. But it is something author did themselfs.

You can not perform legal act (releasing) with extra conditions like a delay. Either you did it or not!

For the same reason you can not put extra conditions in Last Will (house is yours, but you have to take care of my cats). That part is simply not enforceable and gets ignored by notary!

So I am worried, clause about Apache license is invalid, and software may get forever stuck under less permisive license!


> You can not perform legal act (releasing) with extra conditions like a delay. Either you did it or not!

There are definitely fundamental legal questions in Open Source licenses that differ from country to country, but you're most likely incorrect that a delay cannot happen in Czechia. Delays in (non software) licenses are very common and have been held up in courts. In fact, that's the common case of many licenses that they hare different rights associated over time.

> For the same reason you can not put extra conditions in Last Will

I doubt that whatever regulates wills restricts contracts or licenses.


Yes, they could put extra paragraphs that become valid after 2 years, that would be OK.

But the way it is written, it changes existing license! Effectively making a new release! You can not do that in EU, what if user does not agree with the new licence? It is quite illegal in most EU countries!

You can not swap licenses like that! Many scammers do that, and there are strong pro-consumer laws to prevent that!

What is worse, it even terminates old license after two years! Really really stupid lawyer worked on this!

Here is the text:

> On the second anniversary of the date we make the Software available, the Software will become available under the Apache 2.0 license. On that date, the Terms and Conditions above automatically terminate and the following terms become effective:


> But the way it is written, it changes existing license! You can not do that in EU, what if user does not agree with the new licence? It is quite illegal in most EU countries!

It is not illegal as the license terms are available from the start. The text of the license effectively changes. If you do not agree with what the license looks like after two years, you should not enter into that agreement in year zero.

> Many scammers do that, and there are strong pro-consumer laws to prevent that!

Consumer laws are largely based on the idea that you cannot take away people's rights, you can generally add rights. Even if there was a hypothetical case that you mention, it would be legally absurd in the FSL case. You could have the license swap over in the US, after which point in time no trace of the FSL remains and the license file can be legally swapped. In that case you can re-import the source code into your country.


Ok, imagine following scenario:

- You started using product

- One year latter ASF stops existing, apache.org returns 404 or viagra ads.

- Two years latter, original FSL gets terminated, your new license for that software are 404 errors or viagra ads. You now have no license and should stop distribution!

Think what you want, software under FSL is on my ban list.


That’s a purely hypothetical situation. Even in that case a court would very likely uphold the license just by the name. For what it’s worth plenty of software is only referencing a license by name or reference and I’m sure you are using that software as if that license were there in hardcopy.

More importantly if you want to make a fork you can always retain that license the moment you fork, not the moment the license swaps. In fact you probably would want to start collecting contributions under Apache 2 straightaway.


It is easier to use *BSD for something like that. It is smaller, more consistent, you are not forced to release your changes...


>> It is smaller, more consistent, you are not forced to release your changes...

They're trying to move away from proprietary software, not create more of it.


The idea that any of those countries would care at all about license terms is laughable though. China in particular had such a large pirated Windows install base, that Microsoft realized they needed to keep releasing updates lest they want an endless botnet on their hands (might also do substantial damage to manufacturing infrastructure).


Microsoft would rather China run on mostly pirated Windows than on Linux.

The Chinese do have a government-sponsored distro, Red Flag Linux, and at one point the Chinese government ordered Windows 2000 be uninstalled from government computers and replaced by Red Flag Linux, although whether that actually happened, while anyone’s guess, is unlikely.


Contract can be international and are enforceable! It would be a huge problem for possible future exports, if there was liability with GPLv2 violations!


Money do expire! There is inflation...

I would like similar system for land ownership and buildings. Property taxes at level of 5%. In China land can not be owned, but only leased for 70 years.


I carry around a piece of hard currency (1901 Silver Dollar) to remind me of what real money is like... it's always been worth about 4 retail gallons of gasoline. I expect that trend to continue for at least another decade.

Soft money, tends towards zero, as you said.


According to the internet this coin is worth between $45 and $2150, depending on the condition, but its weight in silver is only worth $18.40 [1]

[1] https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/united-states/dollars/...


I don't mess with coin collecting, just the melt value.


How do you get a gas station attendant to give you $16 worth of gas on the spot for a $1 coin. No intermediaries.


I think the comment is about the equivalence, not about being ready to perform the real transaction.


I’ve actually been casually looking for a Carson City dollar to carry around, just as a keepsake. Trick is finding one in bad enough shape to lose much of its numismatic value (since my intent is to carry it in a pocket with keys and other horrors) but retain the fact that it is, indeed, a CC dollar.


If you’re only interested in the intrinsic value of the metal, why not melt some silver and make your own coin?


I keep 200 Swiss Francs in my drawer, because the last time inflation in that country went above 4% was in the 90s and the last time they had war on their soil was in 1847.

Over here this should afford you a month's worth of groceries for up to two people if you're careful with your spending.


... and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock


200 francs isn’t going to buy you shit in any type of inflationary crisis situation.


It will buy you nearly a ton of wheat.


If land is not owned by anyone the risk is that it's treated poorly since there is no incentive to treat it well. Take the profits that are available during your 70 years lease and run, it's not your problem afterwards.


I disagree, it's about the culture, the culture and education will dictate how well public property will be treated, just look at public toilets in Japan vs ones in the US, it's quite revealing

Money that expire will work well in the EU/Asia, probably not in the US, it's a way too self-centred and selfish country


And is that really a problem?

Infrastructure ages and needs to be refreshed. Look at NYC, how old "land improvements" get stuck.


It's remarkable how many problems seemingly come back to Land Value Taxation.


maybe the only real technical problem is "whose is that?"


If nobody is to he found to tax then you can just take the land. Super lax version of use it or loose it


Actually no. Expiration of money and inflation can exist simultaneously.

Expiration of money is an end of life cycle event of individual bills - it affects certain lump sum of money that will become void in corpore. The nominal value of the money will remain the same.

Inflation is continuous devaluation of nominal value of all the money regardless of individual bills.

If we discuss expiration of money then we should consider what constitutes as money creation - when will the countdown start.

Is the money created when it is issued by a (central) bank or is created when an exchange (for value) takes place?

With the first idea a single transaction can contain money with multiple expiration dates and as such the money with longer expiration date will immediately become more valuable and the nominal value of the money is not universal anymore.

The second approach avoids this problem - the nominal value of the transaction is always the same. This has an other interesting side effect as it would incentive to make transactions legal.

But what Gesell describes is mandatory deflation of value of money by insisting a tax on money - a monetary money holder tax, kind of. Whoever holds the money is obliged to pay the tax - if you put your money into bank then it would be the bank. So his idea is considerably different.


These seem easy to game, and would just generate a (pure dead-weight) industry of money persistence optimization. Alternatively, people would ditch their <expiring currency> and buy <some other country's more stable currency> instead.

The whole thing sounds incredibly dumb.


What fool is going to buy that expiring currency with a stable currency?


Inflation serves the purpose. But more directly we also have various fractional reserve systems of money creation through debt.

Bank creates credit (money), often with timed terms of repayment

As you repay, that credit is gradually removed from the financial network.


> Expiration of money and inflation can exist simultaneously.

yes, but we are also expected to pay: rent, taxes, and subscription (utility) services simultaneously


One of the points in the article is that inflation wouldn't be necessary. Is inflation a workaround for the same issue that this is trying to solve? I imagine a bizarro world where they use this system and call inflation nonsensical- we already have expiring money!

I'm not an economist but it's intriguing. Keynes at least thought it was interesting as well.


Yeah but inflation also affects rich people you see. With this we can have selective inflation but only for proles


Not really. Rich people don't sit on cash. They have their money either in safe staff that has real value so it isn't affected by inflation (like real estate or gold) or some gambles like stock or other stuff.

When rich people use cash it's usually borrowed as needed.


No, inflation (as the name suggests), inflates then money supply and as a result, each person's holdings reduce in value. Here the value gets transferred in small blocks through purchase of stamps.


> Money do expire! There is inflation...

If someone put 1 dollar on the bank in 1900, then what would it be worth now, considering both inflation and interest?


Well it'd still be worth "1 dollar". But that's the problem with talking about the value of a dollar - the typical unit of measurement is the dollar itself.

However, in 1900 you used to be able to buy 70 pounds of potatoes for $1. Now you can buy 1 potato.

So yeah I would say that's pretty expired.

https://historycollection.com/30-things-you-could-buy-for-1-...


So. that isn't "money", that's "debt"; and, in fact, the article covers this...

> Money could be deposited in a bank, whereby it would retain its value because the bank would be responsible for the stamps. To avoid paying for the stamps, the bank would be incentivized to loan the money, passing on the holding expense to others. In Gesell’s vision, banks would loan so freely that their interest rates would eventually fall to zero, and they would collect only a small risk premium and an administration fee.


This only goes back to 1913, but says $1 in 1913 is worth $30.65 today. That's pretty rough. https://www.minneapolisfed.org/about-us/monetary-policy/infl...


If it's sitting in the bank, it isn't subject to inflation, only interest. Depends on the interest rate. With 2% compounded annually, it would be around $11 today. With 5%, around $400.

If you open a bank account today and deposit $1, you'll be in the red next month due to maintenance fees.


Land cannot be owned! There is property tax.


Land can be owned but there are other obligations. The whole idea that you can buy the land is because of a government and law.


Too complicated, just let it blink at 50hz and synchronise with electric grid!


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