Exactly. I dont want the software and I dont want something that I paid $100k to be gated tomorrow by a software update or broken by it. Or the constant reporting on me to god knows who. Until this dumbass touch screen design idea gets removed from a car, I am not buying such a car. Even it means paying more in gas. Touch and SDV is the dumbest thing in a car. My motion is not to be tracked and for sale.

I love the new BMWs. Their software is shit tho.

That's a GPU vendor fault, not Linux. More people use linux, more suport from vendors.

Oh really? What else should it snitch on me next?

Your wallpaper image and everything on your home directory

I bet you are the same clown that also says that we don't need QA because there are no incidents in production

Sounds like a yes and you don't know how to manage.

so you are accepting that you discriminate and acknowledging the in office unfavorably favors extroverts which is what everyone in this thread has been saying.

you can just send "hey you got 5 mins"? you have to do that in person. you do that on chat. nothing different. this is a made up reason. I do this all day, everyday

I'm the manager. They do not send that message. They either are trying and never giving up, or... doing dishes.

I check in, and it ends up being story time about non-issues.

In person, its a 'hows it going?' and they say either 'good, still working' or 'stuck...'.

I would love if WFH was as effective. I could reduce my labor costs and probably have happier workers.

You're getting a lot of replies from other ICs that do well in a WFH setting, but I can say from a manager perspective, it's not always the manager or process. I've been managing remote teams for years since before covid and some people just don't do well without the in-person structure.

It's possible to build a high performing remote team, but it's not easy.

> some people just don't do well without the in-person structure

Structure is what makes remote work well. IME places that rely on everyone being together in-person to make sure things get done have poorly-defined structure.

You could reduce your labor costs and reduce the aggravation you are causing teammates if you changed your attitude.

It's possible to drive results and create a culture of accountability without dragging people into the room with you just so you can interrupt their work in-person.

Considering it’s very easy to send a how’s it going Slack message or whatever this seems more like a issue of keeping the conversation on task than a slack issue

No it doesn't. That economoic activity when done from home, raises their local neighborhoods now where mom and pop businesses can thrive instead of competing in a costly rental market based on scarcity.

The keywords that you are not saying are "is a sweet spot FOR YOU"

If it is a sweet spot for you fine, I am happy you found it. But DO NOT FORCE all of US who have different sweet spots to meet you at yours.

I don't think GP was forcing anyone to do anything.

Thanks pal, I was not forcing anyone... but I guess my wording made it sound "this applies to everyone!".

I put my comment out there to trigger just this kind of discussion.

I'm not saying you're doing this, but I can't tell you how many complaints I've read where people who want to work in office get there, are bummed out about the fact that their colleagues all work from home, and go whinging to management who are looking for any excuse to bring people back into office.

That tends to generate resistance

Says that guys that FORCED all of America into car dependency

So you hate waffles?

You are totally downplaying it in an effort to not see what others are talking about.