I mean the last commit for Elm core was in 2021. Changes require sign off that doesn’t seem likely from who is currently maintaining it. Why not fork it if you are interested in evolving ELM?
There's more to the story in that Elm is a stable, high-quality frontend language that works as well as its creator wants it to for now. There are a lot of happy Elm users over on the Elm Slack, and it's being used in production at various companies.
There's also [Elm on the Backend](https://gotoaarhus.com/2023/sessions/2529/elm-on-the-backend), a recent talk given by the creator of Elm, about his experiments in using Elm as a full-stack language. There are some notes and a few photos, but no video as far as I'm aware.
I'm not involved in the Elm community nor do I write it for a living though, so I'm only kind of aware of what's going on over in the Elm world.
But bugs have to be fixed. You can't claim that popular non-trivial project is alive without constant commits. Even if no new features are added. I can see many issues about compiler crashes, etc. Sounds like not mature project.
That’s fine, but that’s just your opinion. A lot of people use Elm in production and don’t have issues with it. I’m neutral on Elm. I think it’s a cool language but I don’t use it. I’m not convinced that “constant commits” signal the life of a project though.
I saw the Elm on the Backend presentation. Evan would like ELM to be a full stack language. If it will work properly, you will not have to manage the message passing (JSON, XML). Seems like very interesting topic. Evan looked really psyched about.
"We are bringing the simplicity and friendliness of Elm to hosting. No configuration. Just press publish."
And from the About Page on elm.studio:
"The ultimate goal is to produce a fun and simple programming language, with the kind support and camaraderie of people who like what we do and how we do it."
Very little information about what is the next step in Elm's life, or even whether they've actually left it... I guess the upcoming talk on StrangeLoop[1] may clear things up... his description on that talk hints at what he's up to:
"He lives in Denmark, working alongside his wife at elm.studio to keep Elm independent and interesting."
Elm may still be alive, just not publically for now.
EDIT: just found this while looking for more information:
> Why is it a good thing that Elm doesn’t get frequent updates? First of all, it means your code will last a long time! It also means the language is very stable, because features are carefully thought out before being implemented.
Actually I think that's a reasonable stance. Not everyone wants to use the newest and greatest JavaScript framework which is will be completely reworked in six months because there's a need for a newer and greatester version. The speed of evolution of JavaScript frameworks is amazing, yet they're all still worse thought out than Elm.
On the other hand, this comment shows the clown car of HN discourse: everything that doesn’t make the trade offs that you want is a literal dumpster fire end of discussion.
And on the surface it seems ok. Basically if you block me then fine I can’t reply to you r posts but if you’re posting publicly why should I not be able to see what you post?
> if you’re posting publicly why should I not be able to see what you post?
That means the stalked person has to be constantly on guard about what to post publicly. Things that might seem innocuous to you and I could be giveaways to a domestic abuser looking for his victim. Essentially the abuser will continue to exercise power over the victim.
Here's a video of Elon back in the day on CNN talking about sleeping on the floor and buying his first expensive car with the money he was making from x.com and Justine Musk saying she fears they will become spoiled brats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9mczdODqzo
I think that people get too visceral on this topic.
Elon has obviously managed to create incredibly successful businesses. And he is also from an upper class background, which makes things easier, but hey, doesn't mean he isn't talented and that he worked really hard to get where he is.
Another thing that also seems pretty obvious is that he wants to hide his privileged background. Here is an archived interview from Forbes where he openly talks about his father's private plane and the emerald mine:
toronto had widespread rent control since 1975 without means testing so what this really means is that they rented in toronto. wow, we are just beginning to peel back the layers on this!
Another metric I would be interested in looking is verified skeeters (people with a custom root domain) vs verified Twitter users and separate Twitter Blue subscribers (with < 1 million followers)
Now that Elon apologized is it ok to ask why Twitter paid a design firm at least 100 million for an acquisition when presumably they already had a design department and team that was internal to Twitter?
“ typical acquihires in the engineering space are priced at $1 million / head, and his company had 50-100 employees from what I read. So the $100 million figure is an educated guess based on what I’ve seen to be industry standards”
Incredibly, a whole bunch of news sites are using that tweet as evidence, and other sites are then using those sites as evidence of evidence.
e.g. [1] says "As per a buy-out clause included in the contract of Ueno’s acquisition" which links to [2] which, you've guessed it, links to that tweet as evidence of the $100m buyout / severance.
(As far as I can find, Twitter never disclosed the terms of the Ueno acquisition and no-one else seems to have published them either. Hilariously LeGate later explains his numbers to someone asking by saying, basically, "I pulled them out of my arse". A true Muskian move.)
