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Yeah, I was just thinking of a very popular bar that I would go to about 15 years ago that was operated on very simple touch screens with large UI buttons. The bartenders could enter drinks & the tab it goes on very fast. It wasn't flashy, but very simple large buttons that always pop up in the same place very quickly, so they definitely had some muscle-memory going on for navigating it.


Oh yeah - AutoCAD by Autodesk was also like this. Once you memorized the keystrokes, you could fly through your line drawing.


I like this take. There seems to be an over-focus on 'one-shot' results, but I've found that even the free tools are a significant productivity booster when you focus on generating smaller pieces of code that you can verify. Maybe I'm behind the power curve since I'm not leveraging the full capability of the advanced LLM's, but if the argument is disaster is right around the corner due to potential hallucinations, I think we should consider that you still have to check your work for mission critical systems. That said, I don't really build mission critical systems - I just work in Aerospace Engineering and like building small time saving scripts / macros for other engineers to use. For this use, free LLMs even have been huge for me. Maybe I'm in a very small minority, but I do use Excel & Python nearly every day.


That could be the case, but I work in a mechanical engineering group as the only person on the team who can write code or automate things with it. We're in a large corporation with a sizeable IT support group that builds a decent chunk of the software in-house, and our team views much of it as terrible. So, I've rewritten applications or supplemented the "terrible" but irreplaceable software with tools to make our jobs much easier. I don't think that I'm better than our in-house IT folks at software development but that my perspective as an actual end-user gives me a much better idea of how to meet our own needs. I'm also highly motivated to make it effective, since I'll be using it. So, the title initially resonated with me and didn't see this comment coming. That said, I'm sure your point is valid in many cases as I'm not familiar with formal software development / project management.


100% agree with this take. I work in observability space. We use our own product to monitor our services, and being a daily user of the product helps us make it better. Our customers also agree. We get opportunity to talk to our customers doing product demos at conferences, etc, and all the feedback I have gotten is that they love the product! But wish it was cheaper.


How to say datadog with more words.


That might explain why the UI seems to change every other week


There's 2 ways you can get to working software

1. Professional software engineers that can listen to learn about the problem space and are willing to come to understand that. This takes humility.

2. The people experiencing the problem. They might not write perfect code and it might not be maintainable long term. But their understanding of the problem and pain points is so good that they can solve just that and not write 90% of the code the professionals wrote...

I've seen this over and over again and can only tip my hat to the people that fixed their own problem. Just like for a dev, that means going into an unfamiliar domain and teaching yourself


>but no jobs are being replaced

I agree that an LLM is a long way from replacing most any single job held by a human in isolation. However, what I feel is missed in this discussion is that it can significantly reduce the total manpower by making humans more efficient. For instance, the job of a team of 20 can now be done by 15 or maybe even 10 depending on the class of work. I for one believe this will have a significant impact on a large number of jobs.

Not that I'm suggesting anything be "stopped". I find LLM's incredibly useful, and I'm excited about applying them to more and more of the mundane tasks that I'd rather not do in the first place, so I can spend more time solving more interesting problems.



Anyone know how apparent bot posts like this wind up here? Third one I've seen today, now easy to notice after someone pointed it out on another topic.


I can only theorize, but my guess is that a human signs up, then allows the bot to post. I get this quite often from clients where they have an online form with a reCAPTCHA, and they are getting regular spam. I have to explain that some bots are able to figure out the reCAPTCHA, as well as let them know that sometimes real humans are just paid to fill out forms and bot detection isn't going to help in those cases. This is especially true with services like Fiverr.


I can assure you that I am genuinely here to engage in discussions as a real person!


I assumed so, your comment was too relevant


Good luck with recognizing bots, but you're mistaken this time


Fair enough. Why don't you fill out your profile? I would love to read it as I'm always curious about the backgrounds of people who's behavior or personality I don't understand, and you're essentially vaguely summarizing the topics in all of your posts, which strikes me as different from anything I've experienced.


I'd think people would migrate to just re-typing whatever was generated and change some wording along the way to prevent detection.


Or another AI could just do that.


Yeah, if you're in a large metro area (I was about 1 hour from the Atlanta distribution center), they would often ship SAME DAY if you ordered by about 10am. It was amazing, and very convenient during chaotic times when you forgot to order one tiny little piece of hardware that was needed before your custom built tooling could be delivered. This was in 2005 - 2007 timeframe, before Amazon started the 1 day stuff.


If it could wash my dishes & do my laundry, if this was actually feasible, but that's probably pretty far off.


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