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Same here!


Only thing I miss now is that burnt LED smell xD


Worth the day it will take off your life expectancy!


You have my respect sir !


but i guess that's the point, you have to have the breadboard and components first. If in a stitch, maybe this would do for that moment.


Well, I dont think there's need for a personal attack here. Even though they might not be 87% faster, they are still quite significantly faster for an ultrabook and they do deliver the battery life. So I guess the OP's question can be taken as, could intel or amd or OEMs achieve the performance to power ration soon ?


> Well, I dont think there's need for a personal attack here.

Correctly observing that someone is making false claims due to their allegiance to a brand name is not a personal attack.

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> they are still quite significantly faster for an ultrabook

The benchmarks do not support this claim.

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> and they do deliver the battery life.

Tom's hardware has them at 14 hours, the Surface Laptop at 17. Tom's hardware also says the Surface Laptop is faster. There are Lenovos with 35 hour battery life.

14 hours is pretty standard. The flagships of HP, Dell, Lenovo, and MSI also all do 15-17 hours. Apple's actually slightly behind the pack here.

Please note that battery life and CPU power are inversely correlated; you'll never find a laptop that's good with both, and if someone's telling you they have, they're lying to you

It's like saying that the car that delivers the most horsepower also uses the least gas. No, it doesn't, and you should know that.

In reality, these are both average middle of the road machines. They aren't particularly powerful when compared to one of MSI's beasts, and they aren't particularly battery lived when compared to one of those glorified tablets you can get.

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> could intel or amd or OEMs achieve the performance to power ration soon ?

They did five years ago, according to the measurements and evidence.

I have never shopped for laptops according to their "performance power ratio."


What are your sources for these claims? A quick googling led me to https://www.tomsguide.com/face-off/microsoft-surface-laptop-..., and there they clearly state that the MBP has both better battery life and performance.


That is the Surface Laptop Studio, a different computer than the one that I named


Do you have any links to the articles that you are referring to?


This is precisely the right reformulation of the actual question.

Apple's competitors are already ahead of of Apple in terms of pure performance. "Catching up" is only a thing if you care about the performance/power ratio.


Yes, but the performance/power is extremely important for laptops. As a long time Linux user I'm seriously considering migrating to Mac just for the laptop staying cool and silent after hours operating on battery.


Can there be a software side compensation for this lack of standardisation? Because I too don't see any hardware standard coming very soon to ARM and I don't think it can even.

But, maybe there can be a build automation which can handle all the hassle and minimize the randomness?


I thought user-space applications should be fine? Bootloaders that kind of stuff has to deal with low-level interfaces and those do differ from SoCs to SoCs.

You can build multiple functions to handle different architectures by function multi-versioning[1], not sure if it works for embedded though.

[1] https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Function-Multiversioning....


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