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SMTP and POP have encrypted analogous. Web server+Forum+Web browsers is hardly a better alternative to email many-many mailing lists.


While SMTP and POP protocols can be transmitted over TLS between hosts, which prevents reading messages along the wire, the email data itself is _not_ encrypted. A compromised SMTP server can easily read and copy any message received or transmitted.


And, even if you use a side-channel to distribute keys between the sender and receiver (to encrypt the data safely), the header absolutely has to be plain-text. Governments and companies scraping email meta-data is already a huge problem.

A protocol closer to Tor would make for much more secure email distribution, but it would also require a complete protocol rewrite. Potential death of email from a back-end point of view at least.


I've never been blocked from NYT? I live in NY



It's not "clever", that's for certain. :/


Americans have access to so many social safety nets. I find it hard to believe they would buy ethically produced products had they more money.

Also America doesn't need to trade with China, but it does anyway.


| America doesn't need to trade with China, but it does anyway.

America certainly needs to trade with China these days. Our economy cannot support costlier manufacturing these days


IMO our "costlier manufacturing" would be capital intensive but not high amortized cost.

If we didnt have trade relations with China we'd automate the terrible jobs that we get chinese citizens to do for low wages. I believe the only reason we export work is because once you include capital cost (upfront investments) its cheaper/easier to have a human do it.

Of course, there'd be some ramp up time required where our stuff would be really expensive. Its going to happen anyways as Chinese citizens become more and more affluent and demand the middle class life of the rich world.


I agree but even with the upfront costs of automating, where do you think the automation hardware is going to come from?


I'd say that's the very reason the upfront costs are high. We dont get good automation technology from China, so we have to manufacture it here. Thus its expensive up front.


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