This doesn't seem to be the case. I registered my Hetzner account while living in Russia, and in 2022 I emigrated, and updated address - I did not get any termination letter. Looks like they are banning only those who presently live in Russia - not everybody who ever lived there.
Actions performed by one set of people (government). Consequences are for average Russians, who don't have any say. Those who "actioned" did not face any consequences still, and I don't think they will.
Almost 2 years passed since invasion, EU still buys resources from Russia. Children of Russian politics still live and study abroad, EU and US included. But average Russians, yes, they faced a lot.
Have tried it with my parents, unfortunately, they eat all this crap from Putin's TV. People who are brainwashed can't really be talked into reason. Politics start and end wars, but a person can break ties with his family irreversible because of those in-family political discussions.
Note that convincing them that they're wrong is less important and much harder to do than convincing them that new things they may see in state media may be wrong. It's about instilling doubt, not about arguing with your parents about politics. The propaganda is most likely going to go into scary territories now, so any doubt will be helpful.
Tell them things that will scare them. Anything that will scare them. How much they will personally come to suffer because of the the sanctions of Russia because of the war in Ukraine. How Russia is not able to import anything. How poor they will become.
Yup, it's actually making things harder for us to move away from Russia. One more thing to deal with. And this NameCheap's decision didn't hurt Putin even a tiny bit.
> And this NameCheap's decision didn't hurt Putin even a tiny bit.
IOC lists have been plagued with domains registered through Namecheap for years.
Namecheap is doing this for ideological reasons but this single action should (in theory) disrupt a lot of existing malware connections to hostile infrastructure.
I'm moving our of Russia with my family. I was glad that my business was already outside of it. Now this domain stuff just added up to a pile of problems I must solve.
And the effect is negative - I moved domains out of NameCheap to Russia simply because any other US or EU based registrar can do the same crazy thing and are not trusted.
So Putin's regime actually got more money out of this.
Sure but I don't want our company to be a factor in that contribution. I'm sure there are plenty of others out there willing to take the money and provide these services. If there are anti-government non profits out there, We'll consider keeping those up with us if you'd still want anything to do with us.
If you are no longer based in Russia and not doing business there, we'll consider that as well.
The continued refrain of “contact our currently being bombed support teams” has got to be the most amusing part of this whole thing - for those watching from the outside.
You're just the average russian right now. Complaining when the war pulls them out from their comfortable orwellian reality. No social network, e-payments, entertainment and start to cry.
Where were you last Wednesday for instance, hours before the "pacification" took place? Not complaining perhaps, not doing anything.
No value was created out of them moving these domains. It's not like Namecheap is doing any good here. They're just posturing without actually helping anyone with this move or affecting real change.
Do you really think all these sanctions against Russia won't have any effect? The more countries and companies that join in, the faster the results will come. The Russian masses cannot put a blind eye to what their government are doing any more.
I find it really distasteful that a couple of you cannot even be bothered to transfer some domains. You know what your taxes are funding right now don't you???
So far it seems like the police are being allowed to arrest protesters, no one/very few fights back with molotov cocktails like they did in Ukraine in 2014.
I’m truly sorry for all honest Russians that don’t support their government and what’s going on. But the world cannot let Putin go on and there is only two ways of doing that; military action that will result in full nuclear war or pushing the Russian population to step up and overthrow your government.
The comments here are basically several variations of "I'm Russian and in the process of fleeing my country after getting beaten up by police" or "I'm Russian and actively against my home country's government and haven't been there for years", and the CEO saying "sucks for you but maybe you deserve it".
The Russian government's actions in Ukraine are horrifying. People wanting to spite anyone with a Russian background is distasteful and I fear it may simply backfire if it keeps building, similar to anti-Asian violence after covid or western actions and racism only empowering the message of Islamic extremists.
I'm fine with punishing corporations and putting a squeeze on Russian billionaires so they'll breathe down Putin's neck. Telling a random dude born in Russia to bugger off just isn't right to me. My home country has a history of awful shit but nobody ever actively turned me away just for my background.
The sanctions, when applied bluntly without a particular goal will have the effect of pushing Russia further from the Western world and into a closer relationship with China. If anything they destabilize the world further.
The “but he did it too” spiel rarely works when talking to adults.
But you know what, if someone force me to switch dns provider when my government is killing innocent families with my tax money I’ll gladly do it without whining on the internet.
Unless your governments is killing white Europeans you won't have to worry about, people won't care like they do now and you'll keep getting away with it.
>No value was created out of them moving these domains. It's not like Namecheap is doing any good here. They're just posturing without actually helping anyone with this move or affecting real change.
Whether you agree with Namecheaps' decisions or not, they are Namecheap's decisions to make.
You're likely absolutely correct that Namecheap won't effect any real change with this move. That said, why shouldn't they show (non)support for whomever they choose?
Yes, this is likely a pain in the ass for many Namecheap customers and will likely piss a bunch of people (Russians and non-Russians alike) off.
It's also likely to negatively affect Namecheap's financials as well.
I have no relationship (financial or otherwise) with Namecheap, nor am I a Russian national. As such, you might think that it's easy for me to take this position. And perhaps you're right.
Then again, I believe freedom of association is an important civil liberty. As such, I don't fault Namecheap for their decisions.
Especially since the company (and right here in this HN discussion) has claimed they will continue to do business (and/or provide more time for transition) with those who aren't supporting the Putin regime.
As you mentioned, most tech folks in RU are anti-Putin. Why shouldn't tech folks outside of RU take the same position?
I know I'm horrifed and outraged by Russia's recent actions. Just as horrifed and outraged, by the way, as by my own government's (US) actions in Iraq and elsewhere.
I'm sorry that you're being negatively impacted by this. It's not fair to you and others.
I'd point out that this wouldn't even be an issue if the Russian government (your government) hadn't chosen violence, murder and destruction.
As such, it's not with Namecheap you should be angry.
Feel free to disagree. Like I said, I have no skin in this "game," except in wishing the Ukrainian people well and hope for their safe passage through this dangerous situation, wholly created by your government.
I don't. I just don't see a logic in this. Our government and Russian people are different realities. We just happen to reside on the same territory. It's easy to say sitting on your couch "why don't you protest" or "why didn't you flee the country" when it's not you who has to do it.
Either you care or not, your government represents the russian people for all the world. I know that individual people should not be blamed, and I'm really sorry that you guys are in the middle of this shit, but the rest of the world has no other effective way of showing to the russian government our disagreement with what they’re doing.
That's the exact sentiment (along with the "please don't play the pity card" comment higher up) that's leading average Westerners to assault ethnic-Russian or Russian-speaking people living in the West, who have absolutely zero to do with the Russian government. And it's the same sentiment that lead to the rise in anti-Asian hate & violence in the last few years.
When average people become an acceptable target, it's (at least implicitly) dehumanizing. Regardless of whether people like you would endorse that violence (I'm sure you never would), we've seen where this rhetoric leads.
There's the same classic motte-and-bailey as with coronavirus ("we're really just calling out the government, not the people"), except in the current Russian case, there's a lot more motte than bailey since citizens are explicitly an accepted target.
>That's the exact sentiment (along with the "please don't play the pity card" comment higher up) that's leading average Westerners to assault ethnic-Russian or Russian-speaking people living in the West
That may be true. I haven't heard about such stuff (and a cursory web search didn't show any reports of violence against Russians in Western countries), but I did see protests by Ukrainians in New York City that were joined by Russians, with both groups calling for Russia to stop this violence and murder.
Perhaps I'm too wrapped in my own filter bubble that I don't see it?
Can you point to specific incidents where civillan Russian nationals and/or those of Russian descent have been attacked in "Western countries"?
>Yes, I can. That perspective came to me from Russian friends, but it's not hard to find news stories of "actual" incidents.
Those are disturbing stories. It's unfortunate that this has only been reported by local news outlets.
Folks who engage in such activities should be found and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. There should be no place for such violence/harassment of anyone.
I imagine that the vast majority (>98%) of people in Western countries would agree with that statement.
But there are assholes everywhere. They are small in number, but they pretty evenly distributed throughout the population. And we will never get rid of them.
But a few incidents, while reprehensible, among nearly 3/4 billion people, is hardly a hemispheric plot against Russians and/or those of Russian extraction. Wouldn't you agree?
Parent poster here: it seems I should have been more explicit by saying that your government represents russian people in the political sense. I still say that I’m really sorry for the mess russian government has dragged all russian people, but we (rest of the world, especially ukrainian people) have no other effective means to show our disagreement with the russian government. And as someone else on this thread wrote, a war brings inconveniences to both sides, but at least the ukrainians didn’t ask for it.. If you’re russian, I hope you stay safe!
Why do you believe that this is an "effective way of showing" anything to the Russian government? Do you seriously believe that they care about their people?
OTOH it does work wonderfully as fuel for Russian government agitprop: "see, they really are out to get you, not just us!".
> It's easy to say sitting on your couch "why don't you protest" or "why didn't you flee the country" when it's not you who has to do it.
Namecheap has lots of Ukrainian employees, including a few of their C level employees, who simply can't choose to not fight. Not sure this is the line of reasoning you want to take...
You fund the attacks on Ukraine whether you want it or not. Nobody is targetting you specifically, but transfering a couple of domains as collateral damage isn't that much problems is it? And while you think of a response to that, keep in mind that your tax money is funding attacks on innocent civilians, as in bombing them.
That seems logical however I also got the email and I'm British, with zero links to Russia, no russian tlds/hosting, absolutely nothing, all my domains registered in England.
Isn't it a discrimination based on nationality? We're a small company in Russia and things are already hard for us. And now this. We do not support Putin or his war, why hit on us?
This is what the beginning of economic stagnation looks like and how regime change is forced upon Russia (again). It could be worse, though. You could have a nuclear power rolling tanks through your neighborhood trying to decapitate your government and install a puppet.
