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yeah we took one of those cups and buried in a compost heap for a few years. it was not degraded in the slightest.

this does happen to some extent for example with auto emissions and other things. CA is such a large market when it alone makes a change, it often drags along other states or the nation.

Not really. CA can regulate import and sales of items based on the what the item does once in CA. They can't really regulate how it was made somewhere else.

When some particular item as currently made does meet California regulations the maker has four options:

1. Keep the item as is and don't sell it in California.

2. Make a California version that meets regulations. Sell that only in California. Keep making the original version and sell it elsewhere.

3. Same as #2 except sell the California version along with the original version outside of California.

4. Make a California version that meets regulations. Stop making the original version and sell the California version everywhere.

California is a big enough market that many makers cross off #1. Once they are making a California version it often turns out they selling that everywhere is more efficient for them than keeping the original version around.


Damn it…missing a “not” in the first sentence.

I'd be curious to know if this is really the case.

States have a lot of power to regulate commerce, interstate commerce and the products their citizens have access too.

If indeed they can't, then perhaps its one subject dems and r's could get together on. Instead of blanket tarrifs, tarriffs on products made with slave labor or without strong consideration for environment impact.



Apologies, I meant federally.

Since D's control California, no need to work with R's there.

I also think they could get creative. Eg., without an attestation validated by <agency> products can't be sold.

For example, this is already done with controlled substances and food.


I don't think it's unreasonable for indirect impacts like this to be regulated by the federal government.

I completely agree. I'd vote that person regardless of party.

For example, the ubiquity of backup cameras in cars is because it is a requirement in CA.

This is not correct. The backup camera requirement comes from a NHTSA (i.e. Federal) regulation.

You are correct. I must have mixed that up with something else! Thanks for the correction.

yet oddly California is the #1 manufacturing state by a wide margin.

https://www.industryselect.com/blog/top-10-us-states-for-man...


use this to just see friend's stuff in chronological order. block any algo stuff FB inserts. limit use to once a day (or week).

"https://www.facebook.com/?filter=friends&sk=h_chr"


if you are getting an MRI for some acute condition, I wonder what the marginal cost to 'upgrade' to a 'full body scan' is?


this is the issue. the US was easily addressing this problem with immigration before the current regime


Surely that meant that the problem was increasing in the coutries they came from?


Not necessarily. Those countries have enough growth to sustain both their population and ours.


delegating UI to the 'not worth my time' pile is how you end up with a poor UI


those zoox cars though. watchout!


please, those are not hysterically funny


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