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No. The idea is until it receives the chef’s kiss, it’s dog food.

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This sounds like an ideology based reply. Grok is underrated and I think has a better chance of long term success than most. The current growth strategy means (for me) their chat harness is not up to par for serious work.

Their API is consistently among the most used on OpenRouter. While I can’t vouch for it myself, I think this is a decent proxy for capability. You can definitely see glimmers of greatness in their chat interface, it just feels like the system prompts are focused on something that doesn’t interest me.


Grok is not SOTA, but its so obviously better than Mistral. Mistral is just some European patriotism or something.

Grok is nice for asking morally gray questions. ChatGPT will lie in these cases.


What lies have you seen? ChatGPT is the most censored one, but I’ve only seen rejections, not lies.

My other complaint is that ChatGPT ends every response with a teaser to ask more questions.


Ask game theory questions with real humans where its best to defect.

> Grok is nice for asking morally gray questions. ChatGPT will lie in these cases.

Are you really that oblivious to the painfully cringy manipulation tactics by the man who partied at Epstein's island? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/21/elon-musk...


Suspicion confirmed

Define ideology and its relevance here.

Ah, with this and the Trump prompt we can relive the eloquence of the 2024 US presidential election for all time, any time we want. Truly a golden age!



How is it a high bar of proof if it is already required? Edit: and already met


How many documents can be used to prove your citizenship? How many times do people have to go back to the DMV because they forgot something or another? Now imagine that everyone has one shot to get that right on voting day.


That’s not how this would work in practice. You get an id that proves citizenship once. So one day at the dmv, Not every Election Day.


It's not a requirement in most places. This would be a significant change in practice.


I’d like to see a citation - I’m not sure this Red Delicious assertion is true.


So if the people making the software don’t see their time is up and the people using the software don’t see their time is up, who decides their time is up?


The need for a functioning digitalised society, because the current one is digitalising slowly, decades behind technological potential, and poorly at that, so it doesn't work; the result is a lethal inefficiency that is making society itself increasingly unmanageable, with a level of social fracture that I fear is irreparable.

Oh, sure, office suites aren't the only cause, nor the main one, but they are a contributing factor. The model of giving a computer to secretarial staff without any training, which is why this software was created in the first place, has now been extended to almost all "office" workers, and well, it's among the causes of our decline.

We haven't worked with sheets of paper, pages, suspended folders (as directories are rendered in file managers on average), and so on for a long time now; it's high time, then, that the modern General Magic, the Office model, stop screwing everyone over. This won't be understood anytime soon, and the result will be a state of affairs even worse than the present.


Excel and Genomics was a recipe for a disaster. Again, for home/office users, something like Wordpad with small tables, such as the ones from Ted works for a 99% of the cases.

Everything else should never interact with a crap like Excel. Ever. Use dedicated, scientific journals for it if you are a self-called professional. Reusing a ledger sheet for serious stuff will just make companies lose billions with faulty research and papers.

Access? Nice toy, but even Sqlite3 as a damn engine can be more powerful and straightforward once you stick any RAD UI, from Lazarus to something small in C#, which is possible in AOT. Heck, even if you have Java, by decoupling the backend you are safe to put even a TCL/Tk GUI, even it if's looks 'horrible' by default, but for serious use, you would love the default "industrial" design. Or just use the Win32 TTK lookalike which would look well on almost any PC.

Ah, yes, reports and the like. Use a damn library to print to PDF, there are zillions. Or, just better: once you get the result in text, just paste the results back to Ted/Writer/Word and then you are free to compose the document in any style you like. Then, well, 'print' to PDF, or PS->PDF.

It might be more complex, yes. But your data won't be mangled in the process. The results would be in a separate text file, outside of any faulty spreadsheet or wannabe database. That output should be pristine and backed up ASAP. As it's text, it's parseable from nearly every machine from 2002. Even more if it's plain ASCII, for sure a thing with science done in English and plain numbers. No localized MSOffice bullshit for formulae, no more numbers parsed as dates, ever.


kkfx it's right. Office users shoudn't need nothing more complex that WordPad and a simple spreadsheet such as Gnucalc. Everything else should be either DTP domain, scientific notebooks instead of crappy spreadsheets with parsing bugs (genomics) and Access instead of SQLite3 and any GUI of choice to place forms in a WYSIWYG way making queries against that database.


“So when Twitter was accidentally purchased by a fascist high on ketamine” was enough to predict the rest of


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