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Yep, this is a no from me.

Yeah, I'm not trusting some app like that randomly on my computer.

Understandable! You can come back later when everything is in place and the app is officially released, signed and notarized :)

JFC. This does not belong on HN. Look at the discussion. Nothing but politics.

How does this not reach the front page?

We just found out about this story and the submissions of it. It looks like it didn't make the front page because it set off HN's voting ring detector.

Mods didn't touch either thread except (1) we merged the duplicate discussions and (2) we rolled back the voting ring penalty so that the story would be on the frontpage.

This is in keeping with the principle that we moderate stories less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is part of the story. That's been the case since the beginning, and I've posted about it dozens of times: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....


Respectfully, I think there may be an issue with your voting ring detection, which is that if multiple people try to submit the same article and are redirected to an existing post and they upvote it, that might be setting off the voting ring alert. Can you check that?

I would imagine that's what happened here.


That's definitely not what happened here. The data would be quite different in that case.

Edit: 10% of the votes came from resubmissions of the URL. The other 90% came from other sources.


Curious to know! I submitted the duplicate article and most definitely did not work with any voting ring.

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Having been at this for 12 years I am pretty sure that the bulk of the community does in fact believe us when we say that, and even when we say other things as well.

There are a number of reasons why this is the case. One is that it is true. Another is that we've always treated the good will of the community as by far the biggest asset—in fact, the only asset—that HN has.


It's on the front page for me?

It does, but it's also a takedown of a YC-backed company.

Really great vetting there, guys.


LOL -For a good minute the comments were not visible. Someone is playing RR.

We were in the process of merging the threads. Actually tomhow had correctly merged them, but I misinterpreted which submission had been first and undid that. Then corrected my mistake.

Had you checked the other thread during that "good minute", you'd have seen that all the comments were intact.


That has not been my experience.


It's amazing how far companies will go to not pay their best talent appropriately.


Yikes man.


Signal too


Now that's a hilarious comment. The Verge has become a joke website.


> The Verge has become a joke website.

Because? I'll be honest, haven't read much from The Verge so don't know much how it used to be/is now, but given they seemingly post articles about how to resist government tyranny, doesn't that make them a good website in general?


Yes. Unless you support govt tyranny.


Government tyranny is when customs and border protection enforce immigration laws? ok lol


If what you're seeing right now is just "enforcing immigration laws", then yeah, obviously that's not government tyranny.

But I'm guessing you still have somewhat free media (?) and also could look at what international news channels report from the US, and they're not painting a picture of "enforcing immigration laws", just the amount of added vote restrictions that been going on should give you a heads up where it's about to go, and that the president is flirting with that the administration should actually be the ones responsible for the elections.

If you don't see it at this point, I'm afraid you might be blind.


I'm curious ... what are you doing in the comments section of an HN post about an article from The Verge then? I mean I look at articles from El Reg even though it's clearly yellow journalism, and sometimes I do it partially for the same reason someone might listen to a crazy person ranting on the train. Is that it?


Because? It doesn't align with your views?


RIP. Very sad.


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