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The Kagi stats graphs (showing membership growth) since May 20th when Google announced their replacment of Google Search speaks for itself: https://kagi.com/stats

Slow gradual growth before, large increase in the daily growth rate since.

It'll be interesting keeping an eye on how that growth rate goes over time. :)


Gaining 700 users "speaks for itself"? All this stats page shows me is how few people actually use Kagi. You'd think it was millions of users based on the way people astroturf it here.

Astroturf? I believe most of the reports here to be genuine. I'm just a paying user and when web search is debated on HN I share Kagi as a very happy customer.

Astroturfing implies that Kagi is paying for people like me to praise them, it's just a good product (for my personal use at least), and I'm glad to recommend it while it stays good.


Why does it need millions of users to be useful to the individuals which use it? It's not a social media site, so I don't care how many other users they have as long as it's a sustainable business for them to keep providing a service to me.

I hope it stays small compared to the tech giants.

I want Kagi to have enough customers to run a business and earn a profit but not so many that they need to make the product worse to continue growing.


Well, for one thing at these user numbers using it is close to de-anonymizing yourself.

Doesn't "astroturf" mean false statements rather than people just being enthusiastic about something?

Ever consider that people praise Kagi so highly because it's actually good?

Then again maybe you're the only correct person on the entire internet and everyone else is shills and crazy people. That definitely sounds more likely.


Growth is nearly linear for the past 3 years.

That chart is programmed to always shows the same shape, no matter if the number of subscribers increased by 10 or by 10 000.

I noticed if you change to the “all time” view it shows a steady linear growth, with no big spikes or valleys.

Damn, that sounds deceptively done then. :(

A good graph would start at 0

We started saving this data late :)

Yeah, pretty sure the US is headed right toward civil war.

On one hand, sure. On the other hand, it seems Bambu Lab's intentions are to lock down their ecosystem and extract rent (ala HP and printer ink).

So, if the Vizio case works out for OSS licenses, then Bambu Lab's likely won't be able to lock things down in the way they're intending (unless they expend significant effort to rewrite code).

That'd "stop" them from winning in the way they'd like, to the benefit of the wider Community of Bambu Labs users.


Extract rent how? Mandatory paid subscription?

I cannot see the future but I believe this fear is unsubstantiated.


From the article:

> Bambu might use its software to lock its printers to its own filament and accessories and start charging for subscription services, the way today’s inkjet printer companies do. Bambu did not deny those possibilities when we asked [...]


Today's inkjet printers charge mandatory subscriptions and lock you to their supplies? If so, much has changed since I owned one. I know they always scare you into buying their things, but never locked you into it. My HP laser (not inkjet) printer will happily accept third party toner cartridges.

> Today's inkjet printers charge mandatory subscriptions and lock you to their supplies?

I guess you're not aware HP has been doing this for a few years now?


Obviously not. Wow, that sucks. Thankfully my HP laser printer doesn't.

Yeah, hang on to that thing. Pass it down to your grandkids, etc. :D

I wish I was joking... ;)


I could see them making working with third party filaments more and more inconvenient. They already do to some extent where the NFC tag system only works on first party filament, and they are not interested in opening it up, using encryption to prevent third party tags from working with their system.

Weirdly, archive.is is timing out for me whereas archive.vn is working: https://archive.vn/p6ufq

Thanks. This sounds a LOT like the bullshit Anker does with their (now largely abandoned) 3d printers. They forked a slicer and locked people out of the devices unless you’re using theirs.

Yeah. Looks like they picked a name already well known for something completely different. :(

> Don't expect Google quality

Google has an extremely poor reputation. Why are you thinking differently to that?


Hmmmm:

> By harmonizing to U.S. free speech standards, the UK will make it considerably easier, as a political matter, enter into data sharing and cross-border cooperation agreements, like CLOUD Act agreements, with the United States.


Leasing company probably thought they'd found some suckers to pay their (the leasing company's) cloud bills.

> I don't know if that's the point where water messes with the electronics, or a swift current would start to move it sideways.

Flotation might also be a possibility?


Less of a possibility than in a similar combustion vehicle, though, since EVs tend to be heavier.


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