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"Rather than assuming they are a right off from society and that everyone is better with out them, spend some of the 25+ years worth of prison money on educating them why what they did was stupid."

Isn't that what the first two strikes do? They went to prison once. They still indulged in criminal behaviour. They went to prison twice. They were told that if you do this again you will spend the rest of your life in prison, and they STILL committed a crime. Obviously trying to tell them that what did they is wrong is not working. We threatened them with a fucking lifetime in jail, and that still did nothing to stop them committing crimes? I think we can write them off at that point.


> Isn't that what the first two strikes do?

Clearly not. Prison does not work, for most definitions of 'work'.

If you want to stop people re-offending there are cheaper and easier ways.

Prison is used because of weird financial incentives and because it's politically advantageous to say that you're locking criminals up.

> We threatened them with a fucking lifetime in jail, and that still did nothing to stop them committing crimes?

Most people pay no attention to the law when making choices about the way they live their lives. I do not steal. The reason I do not steal is because that's how I was raised, not because it's illegal and carries a potential jail sentence. Punishments might make someone pay attention to the methods used - murderers still kill, but they make an attempt to destroy evidence.

Have you heard about the guy who committed 2 crimes, and was then wrongly arrested and convicted for a 3rd, and sent away for life? All appeals failed. He escaped from jail, gathered evidence, and cleared his name. That 3rd conviction was quashed.

Unfortunately, escaping from prison is a crime, and so he was arrested and convicted of that, and returned to jail for the rest of his life.


The problem isn't that you raise the issue, the problem is the aggressive language "sucks". Not has problems, not is limited, "sucks".

The guy writing it probably knows it has problems. He's probably working really hard on it. Maybe he stayed late at work to try to improve it, instead of seeing his girlfriend. And you come along and just say "sucks". Even if he wasn't there, you're still having a go at him in front of other people.

Being polite, diplomatic, calm and considered is not being an "ineffectual drone". You're falling into that mindset that you have to be a cunt to get stuff done. You don't.


He's not "unlucky". He was punished for a crime. He thought to himself, I'll just go and take what I want, and fuck everyone else. We don't want people like that in society. Good riddance.

It's not a serious crime? You're right. That's worse! He's so sociopathic that he'll break the law even when it's not even worth it to him! He'll take your property, even when he could pay for it.


I agree, punishments should be inversely proportional to the crime.


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