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More women complaining about how the world isn't tailored to their every want and need, and they get all the sympathy in the world in spite of how plain whiny they're being. On the other end of the spectrum, I invite you to read this article, written by a woman, on how funny male rape is:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129385/Exhausted-ma...

I don't know much about Defcon, but I get the idea that the person that wrote that post isn't organizing it, nor is a prominent figure in the scene. I also gather that the general atmosphere at that is.. fun-ish.

If you don't like that kind of fun, have you considered, um, not attending? Or did you just go ahead and demand that everyone at defcon behaved like you want them too, because, obviously, you're at the centre of the universe and everyone at defcon is just there to do what you please?

If you go to a gay bar you'll get your ass grabbed, if you go to the sketchy part of town at 2 am you'll get mugged, and if you go to defcon with a shoulder tattoo showing and you're flirting with some guy, you might get the tattoo licked. If you're not into these things, don't go to these places.

EDIT: looks like my link's story has been edited to remove the snarky comments first posted by @NatalieEvans85. Good for them


If you don't like that kind of fun, have you considered, um, not attending?

Lame.


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If you are implying that the grandparent post is misogynistic, it is not. The commenter shows no apathy towards women (as a general sex) - he does however pick on an individual (who happens to be female), but not because of her sex; rather, because she comes off as "whiny"; I suspect the commenter might write the same about a male.


I'm not a fan of "what did you expect?" as an argument either, but such an argument isn't misogynistic. Perhaps ignorant.

If you're sick of HN, have some fun and waste some time here: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/04/open-le...


Well if I am ignorant, educate me.

Here's my take: I am a straight male and I go to a gay bar for a friends birthday. Guy there thinks I am hot, so after a few minutes of conversation he starts rubbing my chest. I politely apologize for leading him on and tell him I am straight. He understands and goes away.

In my mind that's an exact analogy to what happened there. Sure a tech conference isn't a bar, but according to the OP the "frat environment" was there. What I did was realize that I am out of place. What she did is the equivalent of me calling the guy a creep, handing gay people red/yellow cards for creepiness, posting it on Hacker news and getting lots of sympathy from self incriminating gay people.

Again, if you disagree. Educate me. Help me understand.


It's worth noting that the original article has been upvoted to the front page. Also most of the comments in this thread that portray a blatantly sexist/ignorant attitude have elicited downvotes and replies espousing a saner position.

I would like to think this indicates that the tech/IT community is maturing and finally calling out these issues and the individuals who cause/prolong them.


Heh... sure. That's an apt analogy. The "frat party environment I was stepping into" is totally comparable to elite colleges.

/s

I feel like what was really going on is that there were n young girls at defcon that went to defcon knowing what defcon is like. They were completely fine with it, enjoyed being hit on and maybe got some one on one time the cute hacker across the bar.

Then this one entitled lady that thinks is all wrong, and makes cards about how the people that made the conference she wants to go to are creeps.. and guys here read it and think they've gone wrong somewhere.


What the hell? How is the PageRank patent not protection to Google? If Yahoo, LiveSearch and whatever other famous search engine just went ahead and ripped off Google then Google wouldn't be the Google we know now... Proving it shouldn't be any more difficult than asserting any patent. The defendant would have to show how they're ranking pages I would imagine, and if there's an infringement, they're found guilty.


"What the hell? How is the PageRank patent not protection to Google?"

Because it belongs to Stanford University, not Google.


Under exclusive license by Google. Basically the same as having the patent yourselves


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