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Can that original source be reposted on HN within a short timespan or will it be deleted/comments moved? How then would this report gain more traction if only allowed once?

From a comment by ChrisArchitect somewhere in this thread:

> [dupe] Discussion on source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47225130 .

More info: 1439 points | 6 days ago | 838 comments


> was he mentally or possibly physically abused by his father for most of his life?

Such baseless libel. Have some humanity instead of being horrible.


> Do gun manufacturers get sued for mass shootings at US schools?

Because Congress and the gun lobby have artificially carved out legal immunity for gun manufacturers for this.

"in 2005, the government took similar steps with a bill to grant immunity to gun manufacturers, following lobbying from the National Rifle Association and the National Shooting Sports Foundation. The bill was called The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, or PLCAA, and it provided quite possibly the most sweeping liability protections to date.

How does the PLCAA work?

The law prohibits lawsuits filed against gun manufacturers on the basis of a firearm’s “criminal or unlawful misuse.” That is, it bars virtually any attempt to sue gunmakers for crimes committed with their weapons."

https://www.thetrace.org/2023/07/gun-manufacturer-lawsuits-p...

I 100% think that Gun Manufacturers should be liable for crimes done by their products. They just cannot be, right now, due to a legal fiction.


> This whole thing is silly, LLMs can automate reference validation.

Can they though with 100% accuracy and no hallucinations? Wouldn't you still need to validate that they validated correctly?


> Where is the rampant militarism

ICE


Rationalize the OpenAI position? Sam Altman gets money from DoD. He has no morals. He doesn't care if people die because of his product. It's not hard.

> Whether Anthropic’s clear mistreatment means that all other companies should refrain from doing business with the US government isn’t as clear to me.

You're conflating the Trump administration and their fascist tendencies with all US government. You want to work for fascists if you get paid well enough. You can admit that on here.


With this administration, after all their proven lies, when in doubt, assume bad faith on their part. Assuming good faith at this point is Lucy and Charlie Brown and the football, but now the football is fascism (i.e., state control of corporations, e.g., what Trump administration is doing here).

Trump has historically stiffed his contractors. Why do you think his administration would be any different with adhering to a contract?


It's a silly shibboleth, but I automatically ignore anyone who calls it the Department of War or Gulf of America. Hasn't steered me wrong yet. They're telling me they're the kind of people who only care about defending fascism.

I call it department of war, because I think it is a great self-own on their part to do such a rename.

There will be no fighting in the war room!

I think it's worth giving people a tiny bit of grace on this. I've surprised people by explaining that the "Department of War" is just fascist fanfic and that the legal name has not changed.

It's a testament to the broken information ecosystem we're in that many people genuinely don't know this. Most will correct themselves when told. I agree with you that those who don't are not worth engaging.


Google Maps calls it Gulf of America, pretty difficult to ignore Google.

Only in America, in the rest of the world Google calls it "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)".

Don't deadname the Gulf!

Gulf of Amy


I ignore Google quite easily. Besides, as soon as Trump is out they will change the name back.

Because Google are bootlickers.

They literally complied with this request immediately and without question.

I would not defend all of Google's decisions in the Trump era, but complying immediately with politicized name changes has always been the status quo. Even in healthy democracies, the precise names of geographic features can be extremely controversial, and no sane company wants to get in a debate with the Japanese government about the real names of various islands.

It's almost like the democratically elected government gets to decide the name, not Google!

It's almost like the democratically elected Congress gets to decide the name, not the President!

(Spoiler: it's still legally called the Gulf of America)


People like democratically elected governments... until it's not their side.

> I am reminded by the perhaps revisionist history but still applicable belief that slavery was really ended by industrialization making abolition economically advantageous and not actually a socially driven movement. (In reality it was certainly a convoluted mixture of the two I'm sure.)

I also never found the economic argument entirely convincing. If slavery were so economically disadvantageous in an industrialized society, why are there still slave labor in industrialized countries around the world today?


Which countries do you think of when discussing industrialised countries that use slave labour?

Optimizing on an individual vs societal level.

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