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wafer.space has just opened our first pooled manufacturing run of GF180MCU with the purchase deadline of 28th Nov 2025.

Think of it like OHS Park for silicon!

You provide a 20mm2 design in the open source GF180MCU technology and you get back 1,000 parts. You can used an existing template or build something completely yourself with either open source or proprietary tooling (no required pad ring or management CPU).


That’s great, $8.50 per chip, bonded.

I’ve noticed there are a bunch of tiny chip houses in China, like 5-10 employees, that have their own chip portfolios and even transistors. Typically in niche markets, of course. I’d love to see that kind of foundational innovation in the USA.


Things like my https://wafer.space ($7k USD), TinyTapeout.com (<$200 USD) and ChipFoundry.io (~$15k USD) are making it much cheaper to do IC design.

There are a huge number of designs from Tiny Tapeout which are all public - see https://tinytapeout.com/runs/

The designs are still more in the MCU size, but you have to start somewhere!

The Google open MPW program also had 10 runs with 40 projects published at http://foss-eda-tools.googlesource.com/third_party/shuttle/ -- All the submissions had to be open source and there were 1000+ of those. I did try pitching to multiple Google Research groups that continuing the open MPW funding would grow the available designs which have been manufactured and that was useful for AI training but didn't get any bites.

The now defunct Efabless also ran a number of challenges in this space which got pretty good results, see https://efabless.com/challenges


There is plenty of updates on the website at https://theopenroadproject.org/ - Including a pretty good report on what happened in 2024.

Also take a look at the Open Source EDA BOF from the DAC conference - https://open-source-eda-birds-of-a-feather.github.io/


Our company www.precisioninno.com is growing proving professional support for OpenROAD much like companies providing support around Linux do. My presentation at the birds of a feather highlights the engagement levels.


Thanks for sharing, seems promising :)


The team at Antmicro put together this pretty cool visualisation flow for this stuff using only open source tools -> https://antmicro.com/blog/2023/11/open-source-signal-integri...



The Tomu family also has;

- The Fomu (FPGA Tomu) - https://fomu.im/ and https://workshop.fomu.im/

- The Qomu (ARM+eFPGA Tomu) - https://tomu.im/qomu.html

- The Somu (Secure Tomu) - https://www.crowdsupply.com/solokeys/somu

The Fomu is also a great RISC-V MCU prototyping platform.


I also have a general offer to send people who contribute to the open source FPGA tooling and ecosystem free Fomu boards.


I have no affiliation here but whatever this guy is not lying - had a hella fun and got a free FOMU on a previous workshop.


> That's funny, a guy made this same offer to me at a conference once

oh wait, you're that guy


Conference Cluedo.

"It was mithro, in the hallway track, with the pogo pin programmer."


This is great work.

Just FYI the video on https://tomu.im/tomu.html isn't showing because it is private.


What kind of contributions would be useful?


I stumbled upon the Tomu (and hence submitted this story) specifically because I wanted to get my hands on a small/cheap FPGA via the Fomu. Probably picking up the Somu as a Yubikey replacement too. Keep up the awesome work!


I have a Google Doc at <https://j.mp/softcpus-on-fpgas> which includes a bunch of information about what type of performance has been achieved on modern Xilinx FPGAs.

You can generally do quite a bit of parallelism, see the quad-core LiteX+VexRISCV solution at <https://antmicro.com/blog/2020/05/multicore-vex-in-litex/>.


The open source toolchain doesn't quite support the PCIe interface yet but all the other stuff should work in theory.

The best place to see what works is the F4PGA examples documentation at <https://f4pga-examples.readthedocs.io/en/latest/building-exa...>.

If you want to start with fully open source tools on a Xilinx 7 series FPGA the best option is the Digilent Arty A35T board <https://digilent.com/shop/arty-a7-artix-7-fpga-development-b...>.


I'm also a fan of the Alchitry Au and Au+ boards as well - https://www.sparkfun.com/products/16527

They have a lot more IO available, but they're also out of stock until the chip shortage problems improve...


When did you last check? The Yosys+VPR toolchain currently supports a full Linux capable SoC with Ethernet and DDR memory on the Arty A35T (which has a Xilinx Artix 7 part), see the example at https://f4pga-examples.readthedocs.io/en/latest/building-exa...


A few months ago. Looks like DSP (hardware multiply-accumulate units) is partially supported now if VexRiscv is synthesizing, but there's still some open issues on their tracker about whether they understand them fully or not.


I afraid I don't recall the status of DSP blocks in the open source toolchains for Xilinx hardware. Even if the basics are supported I'm sure there are plenty of DSP features that are not.

Many configurations of VexRISCV work fine without using the DSP blocks (and has been working for 2+ years), so not sure that is relevant.


While the news seems to focuses on ML and RISC-V, there is a huge amount of *other* activity in the silicon space. With [Google working to improve the open source EDA tools + PDKs while also providing free manufacturing](https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/05/Build%20Open%20Sil...) there are lots of opportunities.

The "new" FPGA companies like GowinSemi and RapidSilicon are also creating some pretty cool parts.


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