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I don’t buy the argument the GPUs aren’t powerful enough. They are orders of magnitude stronger than the original hardware.


Then when too many of the fradulent payments get charged back then your payment processor drops you


Sure, chargebacks cost money.

You know what else costs money? When someone wants to give you money, and you misidentify them as a bot and refuse their money.


With donations being blocked you keep sitting at 0, with chargebacks you can actually go negative, in a potentially unbounded way.


I really hope that the sole reason that michaelt concluded this is simply due on not having any experience how to manage credit card payments (on merchant's side).

For those who does not handle these things: I am not sure on what processor Network Time Foundation is using, but Stripe's $15 fee is actually on the low side of chargebacks (some processors even use the fixed fee + percentage model). Worse, this is unconditional: if you somehow won this, you won't get the chargeback fee.


Yeah, but one probably costs more money then the other, and it seems plausible its the chargebacks.


All communications were unencrypted because encrypting them would have incurred unduly burdensome processing. Nowadays computers can encrypt and decrypt on the fly for virtually free.


Sure. Still people considered themselves free and living in democracies. Why wouldn't it be the case today?


We also didn't have AI models that politicians believed could detect bad behavior on a mass scale. Implementing Stasi level mass surveillance would be very expensive back then, even if there was full access to all communication. Now the proposal is to make a model try to categorize your messages and flag you.

I believe that politicians believe that AI models can do this well without negative consequences. But I also think they forget that a model with 99.99% specificity applied to ten million messages will still falsely label 1000 as harmful.


People using online communication system were a niche, not the norm andost people didn't have the tool and knowledge to access someone else's digital communication.

It is not the case anymore.


They don't have the right to do this. Oracle safeguards the JavaScript trademark against abuse with it's powerful legal teams and has a track record of good stewardship. These guys want to hijack their property and let it loose to the wild west. Who knows what unethical actors will do with it..


The entire point is that oracle has done nothing with the trademark - especially not being a good steward. What bizarro world are you living in?


> oracle has done nothing with the trademark

In my Bizarro world, that is a good thing. Not doing things includes:

    * Not monetizing 
    * Not advertising
    * No agendas
    * No lawsuits 
    * No enforcement (other than annoying organizations with C&D letters and then retracting them)
I would like it to remain as it is.


I agree that Oracle has been a perfectly fine trademark holder in all of these regards in that they are entirely irrelevant to JavaScript and have been for as long as I can remember.

The point here is that them not doing those things would be codified. Deno's not trying to take the trademark from them for themselves, they're trying to get the USPTO to agree that JavaScript is a generic term at this point and unable to be trademarked or owned by any one entity.

I'm not sure how that changes any of the bullet points you've got above. It's nice that points 4 and 5 would become completely impossible and not just improbable because the trademark owner currently doesn't care enough to do it.


If they are not using the trademark for anything, at least by US law, I think they do not get to keep it. The point of trademarks is to promote the production of public good, and if they are not in use they are not producing public good, but will consume public resources, like people dealing with C&D letter or the current time and effort from the government on deno's filings.


Freedom is all very well until someone decides they are free to come and take your stuff, or lie about you, or pretend to be you.


For example, low effort trolling, or self-propagating supply chain attacks.


Most people just call the language "JS" cause Oracle doesn't own that trademark. That's why you wouldn't be able to have a JavascriptConf but we do have JSConf. This is a long-winded way of saying that we already know what people would do with the freedom to speak the name of the language and it's nothing worth fearmongering over...

It's for the courts to determine who had what rights, but it's Oracle that is credibly accused of greatly exceeding the rights given them under the law


Sorry but I'm not going to sponsor you stealing a company's trademark.


The company that took a screenshot of the nodejs website and used it as evidence for their claim of the trademark? The company that had absolutely nothing to do with nodejs? Ohh.


I didn’t know nodejs existed in 1995?


In 2019, when Oracle renewed the "JavaScript" trademark with the USPTO, they were required to provide evidence of the trademark's "use in commerce." Oracle thought they'd just lazily screenshot the nodejs.org website and use that as part of their evidence, which is absurd.

If normal people did this, they'd probably be sitting in jail.


Well, it's oracle, so as far as I'm concerned anything that hurts them or their IP is a legitimate public service.

That said, it does seem more than a little cheeky for a VC backed company to open up a public gofundme for this.


Ask workers of cell phone stores and you’ll find that figure is way off. Not everyone wants a case. Having a case significantly changes the feeling of the device in hand.


As someone who does not use a case, I almost never see anyone else without one. To the point that when I do, I usually mistake their phone for mine.


Some people consider that a security feature.


Not 100% sure this counts but I noticed that yesterday Reddit.com, on a default signed-out profile, was recommending me a /r/ "Cyberstuck" subreddit via the front page which was actively condoning and encouraging violence against teslas. Given that tens of millions of people view the front page daily, that could probably reasonably be construed as mass inciting of violence, and Reddit is well known to be a primarily Democratic instituion.


> was actively condoning and encouraging violence against teslas

> Violence is often defined as the use of physical force or power by humans to cause harm and degradation to other living beings, such as humiliation, pain, injury, disablement, damage to property and ultimately death, as well as destruction to a society's living environment. The World Health Organization (WHO) defines violence as "the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation

You can't be violent against cars. You can vandalise them, which is a crime against property, but that's still not violence.

> Reddit is well known to be a primarily Democratic instituion.

I'm sorry, but you've been woefully misinformed. Reddit is mostly young, and thus socially progressive. Any relation to the US Democratic party is completely by accident, and in fact, I've seen tons of criticism towards them for going the wrong way (trying to entice "centrist Republicans" instead of being more progressive).


Your own definition of violence includes damages to property. And besides, damaging someone’s personal property is effectively the same thing as damaging their person. Because property takes time out of a persons life to earn, therefore depriving someone of their property is almost exactly the same thing as depriving them of their life / health.


> And besides, damaging someone’s personal property is effectively the same thing as damaging their person. Because property takes time out of a persons life to earn, therefore depriving someone of their property is almost exactly the same thing as depriving them of their life / health

This is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. Cars are insured, and even if they weren't... this is still absurd. I can't even put into words how absurd it is. So if someone burns your house, it's the same as getting your feet amputated? Or what exactly is your scale? Losing the phone the same as going bald?


Having a house burn down is comparable to 25-75 years(most people get a mortgage) of labor toil loss, which is enough to push most humans to the point of debilitation, or at least they can only do that amount of work once or twice per lifespan. It’s hard to quantify suffering but yes I’d agree the physical suffering toll on their body and mental facilities required to work that long period of time does seem somewhat roughly comparable to the acute loss of a major limb.


Which is why most people (at least in the United States) have fire insurance.


You're completely ignoring insurance.


That’s lovely. So, where is your evidence that Democratic politicians are cheering on the murder of Cybertruck owners? That was the claim you made in your flagged post. Time to put up or shut-up.


This isnt 1998 anymore so downloading the files from modern websites doesn't really work if youre trying to maintain your own private local / re-hosted copy of a site. especially ones with dynamically loaded content. Some additional processing is needed to fix the files. I have never been able to find a modern scraping solution that works with most modern websites. I suppose the existence of this sort of tool is in conflict of interest of Big Tech, for it would make the creation of visually identical looking phishing sites that easier much.


There definitely are tools for scraping basically any site by using the browser itself to make sure all dynamically loaded stuff gets intercepted correctly. Browsertrix[0] is probably the most well known and complete scraper for that. They offer it as a paid service for convenient setup but its open source and can be self-hosted as well.

0: https://webrecorder.net/browsertrix/


Interesting, never had heard of them before. Pricing looks reasonable except for the time limit being per month. Daily limit sounds much more practical. How do people use that in a useful way?

Does anyone have experience self-hosting this in the cloud? I'd worry about run-away traffic cost but since ingress is cheap most of the time maybe this is not a big problem?


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