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It's pointless: for them their belief trumps facts.


Stop fabricating numbers. The US National debt is about $14.5 trillion, not anywhere close to 54 trillion.

Btw, the Bush tax cuts — costing $1.8 trillion from 2002 to 2009 — are a big reason we got into this deep hole.

Buffet: I would note that a net of nearly 40 million jobs were added between 1980 and 2000. You know what’s happened since then: lower tax rates and far lower job creation.


It's not a made-up number.

US debt to bondholders is around $14.5 trillion.

The US also promised Medicare and Social Security payments to retirees that are underfunded by $59 trillion:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-05-28-federal-b...

The numbers will vary here according to longevity and interest rates, but the bill is huge, and it will have to be paid with tax money.


You know what’s happened since then: lower tax rates and far lower job creation.

By this logic, we should undo the large increases in government spending since 2000 as well. Works for me.


Had you checked the first google result for United States debt, you would have found where the confusion is coming from: the national debt is 14.5 trillion, and the total debt is 54 trillion (Source: http://www.usdebtclock.org/). I'm guessing "total debt" according to the debt clock includes things like state governments and private citizens, although Wikipedia claims that the 14.5 trillion figure is total debt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt).


Buffet who should know better: correlation doesn't imply causation


Stop spreading lies - it's incomplete data! Do you work at FOX News or something?

It’s true that the top 1 percent of wage earners paid 38 percent of the federal income taxes in 2008. But people forget that the income tax is less than half of federal taxes and only one-fifth of taxes at all levels of government.

Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance taxes (known as payroll taxes) are paid mostly by the bottom 90 percent of wage earners. That’s because, once you reach $106,800 of income, you pay no more for Social Security, though the much smaller Medicare tax applies to all wages. Warren Buffett pays the exact same amount of Social Security taxes as someone who earns $106,800.


Do you work at FOX News or something?

Unnecessarily inflammatory remark.


Not really, yummyfajitas is guilty of intellectual dishonesty, so this seems like quite a pertinent response.


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