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IANAL, but...

To reuse copyrighted content, you have to consider fair use eligibility and such -- but fortunately, not all data is locked down by copyright.

One of my favorite ten USSC rulings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications_v._Rural_Tel...

""" It is a long-standing principle of United States copyright law that "information" is not copyrightable, O'Connor notes, but "collections" of information can be. Rural claimed a collection copyright in its directory. The court clarified that the intent of copyright law was not, as claimed by Rural and some lower courts, to reward the efforts of persons collecting information, but rather "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts" (U.S. Const. 1.8.8), that is, to encourage creative expression. Since facts are purely copied from the world around us, O'Connor concludes, "the sine qua non of copyright is originality". However, the standard for creativity is extremely low. It need not be novel, rather it only needs to possess a "spark" or "minimal degree" of creativity to be protected by copyright. ... In the late 1990s, Congress attempted to pass laws which would protect collections of data, but these measures failed. By contrast, the European Union has a sui generis (specific to that type of work) intellectual property protection for collections of data."""


It is rumoured that some encyclopedias give biographies of ficticious people to enforce collective copyright. This wouldn't concern you if wanted information about a historical figure. However, it would be very problematic if you worked for a rival encyclopedia or wanted to make your own website of the encyclopedia.


Dictionaries have long done the same thing with regard to definitions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_trap


I didn't know that dictionaries also do it. Nor did I know that fake entries were also known as mountweazels (after the surname of a ficticious entry) or nihilartikels. How very cromulent ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromulent ).


Suppose there is no electricity. Suppose you're a tyrant ruling over a massive empire that spans a continent or two. For military and economic reasons, you need an official communication system, but the obvious method of having someone physically carry the messages sucks. It's slow. It's terrain-dependent. And your messengers can be captured or eaten by wolves.

Suppose you have really good telescopes, and can construct watchtowers that are tall and easy to defend. With two watchtowers 10 miles apart, a sergeant in one tower can wave a red flag or a blue flag, which the other tower can see with its telescope. With some convention like Morse code, you can relay information between the two watchtowers.

Suppose now that you build a massive network of these towers. You want to enable communication from any tower to any other tower. Clearly this is possible, but there are issues. How do the towers agree to relay messages? How do they deal with congestion? How do they recover from small errors?

So you assemble your finest engineers, give them a large military grant, and they develop some common conventions (protocols) for the tower operators to adopt. They develop Imperial Protocol (IP), a system that gives each tower a unique address and lets any tower try to send a small message packet (a few sentences) to any other tower. But IP does not ensure that the message will get through.

With IP in place, they then develop Tower Channel Protocol (TCP), which operates on top of IP and ensures reliability. Basically, the source tower and the destination tower strike up a metaconversation, notifying each other about how many words they've received so far, and resending IP packets that got lost in transmision. TCP offers a reliable point to point communication line.

With TCP in place, they develop Hannibalesque Tome Transfer Protocol (HTTP). When a general wants to send a large report, the tower operators first send some headers (like the headers on a fax) describing the document that is about to be sent and mentioning how many words long it is, then the words themselves. This is all done over a TCP connection.

When a general in province 7 wants to get the report http://province13.empire.mil/report/OPERATIONAJAX.pdf, the tower operators find the tower named "province13.empire.mil" and send it an HTTP request asking for the document named "report/OPERATIONAJAX.pdf". That tower gets this request, and sends back the report as its response.

So HTTP is built on top of TCP which is built on top of IP which is built on top of red and blue flags.

Replace Tower Channel Protocol by Transmission Control Protocol and Imperial Protocol by Internet Protocol, flags by cables, and towers by computers, and you have the internet. Replace Hannibalesque Tome Transfer Protocol by Hypertext Transfer Protocol, and you have the web.

Note: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semaphore_line Note: Are we actually seeing a practical application of the Slashdotesque "TCP/IP over *!!" meme?


When I was visiting Harvard one time before undergraduate college applications, my tour guide mentioned something that stuck with me -- that after a round of auditions for the highly selective a capella groups on campus, the students that were passed over for all the existing groups decided to band together and form a new group. And that that group ended up training more seriously and later that year came in first in some a capella competition.

There's a lot of potential value floating around HN.

Perhaps an informal BarCombinator of sorts could be formed?

(incidentally, we made it past this round, but...)

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information.

No match for "BARCOMBINATOR.COM".

( Let the domain race begin? )


I've just created a LinkedIn group for Hacker News (unrelated to this thread, but reading it reminded me I was planning on creating it). I'll post the details here and in a new article when it's live. I've also added my LinkedIn profile to my HC profile.


There is already a group with 150 members here:

http://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&sortCriteria=3...

Does that link for people? I can't figure out a better way to link to it, it is called "Y Combinator News Group"

>The groups directory is not currently open. We are working on creating a searchable directory for all groups. If there are groups you wish to join, you may click on the group logo from the profile of a group member and request to join.

Looks like LinkedIn groups are mostly broken. So this is my profile, you can join the group if you click the group link in my profile. http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=7886605...


Hmm, yeah, this seems pretty b0rked. Ok, I'll see if I can dig something up a little more useful.


I couldn't find the group rms posted at all. There are already a few members that have joined the new one that I created. I created a post here with some possibilities for networking:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=160398


Great LinkedIn profile. Thanks for bringing a smile this morning


Inspiring.


Do you mean for adding a little resilience to your rigid model, or something funkier?


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