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Some kind of testing should be required but 27mil seems egregious


Yeah why does the certification process cost so much is one question I have. Would this be a conversation if the cost of the test were more reasonable?


Most likely it costs a lot because there isn't enough frequency of demand for it for more than one company to offer the service thus there is no supply. However, as it is a regulatory requirement the severity of demand when it appears is near infinite.


Having done UL certification before, this is exactly how it is.

During the process we forgot/missed that the product serial needed a single letter appended to the end to denote that it was the UL compliant version. We caught this after paying $15k for just recertification with new parts, no testing, only paperwork.

We went back to UL and told them about the mistake. They charged us $5k to open a new case just to append a "-5" to the name of the product on a handful of documents.

It's a total fucking racket.


In the last admin I used to think that "abolish ICE" was hysterical.

I now believe we need to not only abolish ICE, but puts the politicians and officers on trial. CBP needs to be purged and rebuilt from the ground up.


Never understood why Youtube was considered social media


Hm, yeah, shouldn't Twitch also be on there then?


It's a copyright thing


They really should've added the demo files.


still copyrighted


I doubt you would run afoul of the law by freely distributing something intended for free distribution


I think you should reread the license so you don’t inadvertently run foul of its distribution clause


Is it a risk worth taking though? It is EA games.


Compulsory attendance used to be far less common in colleges, but teenagers in America mature far more slowly than they used to and undergrads are still effectively children. Universities need to babysit them or they'll wreck the dropout rate


No its like saying you should buy a new battery after your battery dies. Yeah, its nice to have a spare battery around i guess but its not like your battery dying will significantly ruin your finances


It's more like buying the plug-in version after the battery dies...

You already experienced the downtime, so if not having downtime was a goal you already failed. If avoiding downtime is not important then there's no reason to add anti-downtime capability to your system. The most charitable modeling of this approach is that the downtime incident may prompt one to realize that avoiding downtime actually is an important property for their system to possess.


The actual charitable model is that you expect close to zero attacks, but if you actually get hit your expected rate of future attacks goes up by an order of magnitude or two. And it's that change in expectations that gets you to buy protection.

You don't care about going down once, you do care about frequent outages. And you know this from the start, you don't realize it later.


I'm not so sure. The risk of future attacks hasn't actually increased, your initial risk assessment was just incorrect.


Yes, the original assessment was wrong. Such things happen all the time to reasonable people.

The person you were describing in your "most charitable" version above was not being reasonable. They didn't just underestimate the petty anger of the internet, they were being fundamentally foolish about their own desires. That's why I replied, to show you a different way someone could end up in this position.


When I'm debugging something, I'm not usually looking for the solution to the problem; I'm looking for sufficient evidence that I didn't cause the problem. Once I have that, the velocity at which I work slows down


My manager once asked if he could have a "quick word". I said "velocity".


idk if that argument really makes sense. A lot of AI chatbot companies have terrible or broken webapps and backend servers because it's not what they really care about. They put billions into their AI models, not their search features. I think the shittiness of their search features is symptomatic of the company's incentives, not necessarily the difficulty of the problem.


Im happy with it. I have filters which will try to find search results from before 2022, which has greatly improved the quality of results for me


For anyone who devs C++ on Windows because they still prefer visual studio over having to manage cmake on Linux, I've found meson to be a much friendlier build system and has really good integration with VSCode.

And if you're like me and hate bourne-like shells (sh, bash, zsh), powershell works on linux and mac and there's also nushell and fish, which have nicer syntax but I've had compatibility issues in the past


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