I think that's unfair. There are some people with sane politics there, although it's definitely a small minority. For example: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/taylor-swift-fan-account-twi...

It was mentioned in this thread and quickly flagged, but Israel broke the ceasefire today by attacking civilians in Lebanon so Iran closed the straight. It was open prior to the ceasefire violation.

France's Macron actually just commented on this: https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/2041990505760772551

1. Israel attacked Hezbollah in Lebanon: https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-launches-largest-airstrike...

2. There is and was no ceasefire between Lebanon and Israel. There was no violation of the ceasefire between Iran and the US/Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-did-not-agree-...

Macron: "I reiterated the need to preserve Lebanon’s territorial integrity and France’s determination to support the efforts of the Lebanese authorities to uphold the country’s sovereignty and implement the Hezbollah disarmament plan."

So Macron and Israel are perfectly aligned. Both are demanding that Hezbollah is disarmed and the Lebanese government will assert its sovereignty. Once that happens there will be no need for Israel to use force but as long as Israeli civilians are bombarded non-stop from Lebanon Israel is going to hit back - hard.

> Israel broke the ceasefire

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Israel didn't sign any ceasefire. The ceasefire was between Iran and US. Israel separately announced (not part of any deal) that it would stop attacking Iran. It honored that self-imposed limit. Israel attacked Lebanon (Iran's proxy).

israels only option is to get america involved since they cant achieve their goals by themselves. trump unwittingly got a punch in the face last time he let himself get dragged in so doubt hell go 100% in again, maybe just lip service attacks to try and appease israel while backchannel appologising profusely to iran as he does it lol

edit: actually im likely completely wrong, what i wrote above is what i hope would be the case but sadly in reality the violence will never end and oil prices will go up and up and up. this is just a temporary blip. the fighting will continue until something more substantial happens to sort it out in favour of one side or the other.

There was never going to be a regime change. Continuing the war meant many Americans were going to die (in addition to bankrupting the US). I'm a US citizen and very glad Iran came out on top here.

US is bankrupt to the tune of trillions already.

When you don't the money, you can't go bankrupt.

But, if you had an amazing reputation for paying your debts, and get super low interest rates because of it, and all of a sudden you change your reputation and demand for holding your debt and currency goes down, well, then that's created a massive problem for the currency that reduces everyone's quality of life drastically.

Joe Biden also committed genocide for Israel.

We are captured by Israel and working against our own interests because they are blackmailing and bribing our leaders.

Trump just yesterday admitted to arming anti-Iranian insurrectionists. So Iran did not "murder 100s of their own people", they fought off a CIA armed coup.

The US/Israel lobs cluster munitions, YOLO fires missiles (and in facts targets schools and hospitals) and has long range nuclear missiles.

Is joining a military that has constantly been engaged in terror a "political view"? I'm not the one killing innocent people, it's just basic humanity to feel justice when murderers are stopped. I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican, this is not a partisan issue. I would vote for any politician that said they were closing down our bases all over the world and sanctioning Israel.