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Which is why browsers take so seriously the time to first paint despite the efforts by javascript frameworks to push it back.


Edit: I misinterpreted the question at first. I guess in TS you declare a class' properties explicitly while in javascript it is usually done in the constructor. The feature must be related to these dynamic properties. Original answer below.

This[0] page says this problem can be also seen in Typescript. But TS has the arrow function as a class method feature that in Javascript is only at stage 2 in it's way to standardization, so it's easier to solve there.

[0] https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/wiki/'this'-in-TypeS...


Are there gateways to see how it works before trying it out myself?


It does not work like that, the gateway will not be able to show anything, and if you would like to go through a gateway you would have to share your secret key with that Gateway, which means full control of your log.

The first time you use Secure Scuttlebutt will be boring because it will be an empty town, you will not have anything and you will not see anyone's feed either. The magic happens when you start following someone or you are at the same network as someone else your client start downloading the log of your friend and the log your friend have stored from their friends, and the feed is filled with information. You will even be able to view your social network offline and you will even be able to do comments in other peoples feeds and it will sync when you are online again.

Most likley you will not be on the same network as anyone else which means you will not be able to see anyone so the solution is to walk in to a pub where almost everyone in the town are

You will find a list of public pubs which can be used in Patchwork to access other feeds https://github.com/ssbc/scuttlebot/wiki/Pub-Servers

What the Pub solve is that you can download a bunch of peoples feed without they and their friends have to be online.


Although I understand the purpose of a new user having no data on first use I do not agree with it. Using a platform for the first time can be foreign and it eases the mind of the user if they can see what it would look like day-to-day. Maybe just have some test material and a very obvious button to wipe it clean when they are ready?


If you follow the instructions in the Getting Started Guide [1] it will not be "an empty town". That would be a pretty crappy getting-started experience.

Just connect to a pub and you'll find tons of content.

I would also recommend AGAINST ever doing `rm -rf ~/.ssb` as one commenter suggested. That will wipe out your keys, and thus your identity, and you'll never be able to post anything as that identity again (unless you backed up your secret file or connected it to another identity (advanced usage)).

[1]: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/getting-started.html


good idea, #somebodyshould implement it!

If you're familiar with terminal, you can start the app, connect to a pub, have a play, and when you want to reset _everything_ including your identity, run :

``` rm -rf ~/.ssb ```

(this assumes mac / linux) Next time you start Patchwork a new identity will be made and you'll be starting from fresh


Decent [1] is an entirely in-browser Secure Scuttlebutt fork with automatic key provisioning for easy onboarding.

[1] http://decent.gwenbell.com/

ETA: More explanation directly on http://gwenbell.com


https://viewer.heropunch.io/channel/heropunch

we also have a git-ssb gateway at https://git.heropunch.io

sbot isn't super fast so be patient but don't worry about overloading the server we have plenty of extra capacity


I had remapped <prefix> w to cycle to the next pane so I had no idea of the window list. Thanks for that.


So it's a remix. What was that about good artists steal?


It's a remix with a single cut and paste.


This is an artist who signed soup cans. I'm sure he'd tell you something like there is no difference between accident and art when done by an artist.


This is one way to view artist - not as a craftman, but as a brand like Walt Disney (or Merceded Benz). The artist then functions as a curator for all the data that passes through him and signs those articles he considers worthy of the brand. This is a totally fine way to look at it - just as long as he/she does not tread on someones copyright.


> not as a craftman, but as a brand

That's reductionist. Warhol's craft was in recognising and willfully exploiting brand culture. He described the celebrity culture we now live with, and made a job out of being the one who understood how it worked. He wasn't just signing "worthy" stuff; he was showing people how the mechanisms of brand-building and celebrity culture actually work: by repetition and labelling/signing/appropriating. He branded the brands like brands branded the world, and he did it over and over with minor variations, exactly like they do.

He was not without his flaws, but he wasn't just some sort of "gatekeeper of cool". He obviously didn't think an artist exists to validate this or that brand; the validation was a side-effect of his artistic craft. This is why trying to "play Warhol" today, using different brands or imagery, is just stupid, in artistic terms: he's done it already, it's all there already and there is nothing else to say on that particular subject.


Refreshing to see enlightened critical theory on HN. I don't agree that there is "nothing else to say" about it however. The world is constantly changing and often presents old ideas in new and interesting contexts.


I agree, I was a bit flippant there, sorry.


Many years ago I got to see a Warhol retrospective at MoMA, and seeing the early works in person was a revelation. My own tastes leaned more toward the "traditional" abstract expressionists and I thought Warhol was too "surface" and not interesting or deep. But seeing them on walls, they're wonderful - playful, vibrant, visually striking. The later work tapers off imo - from some accounts that I've read, the decline happened after he was shot.


Just warn them that at some point in time the feature will cease to work. I see these warnings in the console all the time for broken SSL CAs and deprecated DOM APIs.


Because it would make moving away from lambda much easier.


What is this superb country you live in?


Probably UK? I have a choice of about 10 different ISPs where I live in the UK, and none of them would install anything in my house, they all use the same cable that runs to my house, it's just like changing electricity or gas providers.


We can make it a little bit more awesome. Many adressess have both a fiber and coaxial cable coming in. Making it a broad competition between fiber and coax. The (only large) cable supplier is Liberty Global, which has responded by bringing quad play products to the market at a pretty good pricepoint. T-Mobile is in as well with quadplay via fiber, plus a lot of local offerings. Say, 60 euros gets you quad play for the family, with 100Mb+, some free online content and 4GB+ mobile data.


The Netherlands.

Unfortunately, the fiber network doesn't cover the entire country yet. It was bought by the biggest telco a couple of years back and they pretty much halted expansion. Fortunately, a lot of local initiatives have started up with similar conditions.


> "It was bought by the biggest telco a couple of years back and they pretty much halted expansion."

Why did they halt expansion? Would they not make enough profit outside of denser metropolitan areas? Could such a model (whereby the government only allows construction of broadband network for companies that agree to lease out the wires to everyone) while facilitating ISP competition actually stifle deployment of new wire?


> Why did they halt expansion?

Because it's cheaper to upgrade their existing phone network to VDSL than to install new fiber. Basically, they already own a nation-wide copper phone network, the fiber network was a competitor. They bought the competitor and halted expansion so they could squeeze some more money out of their existing copper network. The official PR bullshit is that by upgrading the copper network they can offer high speed internet to more people in a shorter amount of time than by expanding the fiber network.

> Would they not make enough profit outside of denser metropolitan areas?

The denser metropolitan areas are the main areas where there is no fiber yet. It's the more rural areas that have the best fiber penetration.


Same in Spanish. At my company we use only English for code, even comments. And are trying to push for jira tickets to be written in English only as well. At least among the developers. Can't keep managers from using Spanish.


I've seen a couple of Spanish versions of Python out there, just novelties, never seen them move beyond a proof of concept. There's a whole bunch of esoteric programming languages that don't use English, just like Brainfuck. [0]

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_languag...


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