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Joining United MileagePlus is completely free, you just sign up.

About the same work as filling out a hotel wifi login.


Completely free as in you don't have to give them money.

But you need to give personal information which also has value.


More personal information than you provide them to purchase the ticket to use the free starlink?


Regardless one of the conditions surely is giving them permissions to sell this to starlink as and everyone else. So whether the information is the same is probably irrelevant, how they are using it is.


Probably, because you are now associating your internet browsing with your personal information. (I don't know if they have the sophistication to actually do this, but it is very possible.)


The people concerned with that hypothetical can use a VPN.

At most they could see domains, ip addresses, timestamps, and http-only sites (are there any left?)

But the person sitting next to you can see everything.


> But the person sitting next to you can see everything.

Privacy filters are a thing.


you're literally an inch away from someone.

they are essentially looking head on at it.

that may work for business class, but not economy.

privacy filters aren't magic.


You realize you have to give them the same informaron to even step foot on the plane?


> But you need to give personal information which also has value.

You also give up your personal information when you step outside, take a bus, train, or drive a car.

Hell, even if you stay at home, you are giving up information for free that you are NOT outside.


That's why I exclusively pay cash and don't show an ID when I fly /s


Let's turn it into a gig app.

PIs need to live in the future too.

Swipe left/right if you want to take the job.


Well yeah. In a democracy you have a constitution with the government on what to trust them on. Inalienable rights that are agreed upon that they will not violate. With an autocracy there was no agreement and therefore no trust to begin with.

So yes, you'll be more pissed if someone violates the contract with you vs never having one in the first place.


Meta is the sole reason PHP is still alive. Also a big reason we're not in MVC hell.

They bet on open source and they open source a lot of technology.

It's one of the best companies when it comes to open source.

I don't know how much total they donate, but I've seen tons of grants given to projects from them.


I think that WordPress is still big enough to keep PHP alive. Furthermore, the sheer number of developer that started coding web apps with PHP in year 2000 plus minus 5 years is large enough to give PHP a critical mass for the next 20 years.


Is Automattic contributing back to PHP? I think that WordPress benefits because PHP is available, but does not significantly contribute to PHP development.


WordPress is keeping PHP alive now

But PHP wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for Meta and it's support.


WordPress is from 2003 and has been very successful since the beginning. FaceBook is from 2004. Both were PHP apps because the late 90s and early 2000s were the years of PHP CMSes and ecommerce platforms. Even if FaceBook did not happen PHP would have been one of the top 5 languages of that age. PHP was popular because of web hostings and the simplicity of apache + mod PHP. It was not big in hype because it was a really bad language until about version 7 and few people would admit to like it.

Actually, FaceBook worked against WordPress and the adoption of PHP because a number of people that could have used a WP instance to blog or to market a product started using a FB page instead. Ecommerce went from self hosted (Magento, Woocommerce, Prestashop) to hosted or to Amazon and also FB.


FB actually made PHP faster (HHVM) and contributed to it upstream with bug fixes (like they are doing with ffmpeg here)

Wordpress did nothing to help further PHP other than adoption (which is still important, but not as important)


> Meta is the sole reason PHP is still alive.

This could not be more wrong. Meta is still using PHP AFAIK but I'm not sure it's modern. They created the Hack programming language ~10 years ago but it doesn't look like it's been updated in several years. Most of the improvements they touted were included in PHP 7 years ago.


I never said they were still using it (they are in some cases)

But when the backend world was either Java or ASP, FB chose PHP and helped us other small companies out.

They eventually went Hack, the rest went Node for the most part.

But during those PHP years they gave us HHVM and many PHP improvements to get us through.


HHVM was not a contribution to PHP. It resulted in PHP 7 being sped up and releasing with a bunch of long awaited features. But afaik , very little of HHVM made it back to PHP core.


It made PHP 5-7 usable in production, otherwise it would have died before we got to modern PHP.

Of course it wasn't merged in, it was a separate compiler, it certainly inspired future optimizations though.

But the point is, it was a very useful stop-gap solution for the community.

Also would like to highlight that they have contributed a lot to PHP upstream in addition to that.


Yeah we’re in React SPA hell instead. I’d rather be in MVC hell.


> Yeah we’re in React SPA hell instead. I’d rather be in MVC hell.

I am guessing the world moved to React because the developer community in general does not feel the same way.


No they moved to Reactjs because it was evangelized as the only framework available. There are plenty of people who hate reactjs, don’t worry.


As a react hater, I share DHH's opinion that React was driven by ZIRP. So many giant, slow, react apps out there that are super slow to develop with. IMO HTMX is a 10x dev time reducer over React.


That's a common take here but I'd take React any day.

Been doing this for 20 years. React/JSX is the easiest (for me)


Yeah, same. Not sure if everyone is as traumatized as us when it comes to dealing with 100K LOC large Backbone.js codebases though, or before that where we kept state in the DOM itself and tried to wrangle it all with jQuery.

React and JSX really did help a lot compared to how it used to be, which was pretty unmanageable already.


>It's one of the best companies when it comes to open source.

If you, for some inexplicable reason, judge companies "the best" only based on their open source software and totally ignore everything else they do to society, while totally ignoring all the other companies who support open source software so much better, without doing all the evil shit that Facebook does (like React).

The rest of us don't bend over backwards so far and blindfold ourselves to harsh reality just to lick Zuckerberg's boots.


I said "one of" when it comes to "open source". Nothing more. (you know the topic at hand)

Not defending the company in any other regard nor do I even like social media platforms, would rather have forums only again as a society.

Feel free to continue to follow me around and perform bad takes, it's funny.


People write in cursive all the time. You mainly sign in cursive.

Kids are being taught cursive again. Texas has been doing it again for awhile.

No idea why they stopped teaching it for a few years, kind of messed those kids up.

How do people have a signature if they don't know cursive?

Do they just print it twice lol?


I agree with your statement, and cursive has extra benefits like leading to better hand strength and so on but outside of that, signatures aren't a good counter argument.

Signatures aren't cursive, they're a curated, custom art piece.

Arguably even signatures are being replaced with digital agreements. Just click "I Agree [and we'll use other proof than the squiggly that it was you because your digital squiggly is uselessly different every time]".


Arguing that something is good because Texas is doing it is ultimately a self defeating argument that reveals a lot about you (as do the other internet incel horseshit and exuberant defenses of Scott Adams' racism and misogyny you post). Do you mean systematic institutionalized racism, rampant gun violence, and frequent school shootings are good too?


It's not good "because Texas is doing it".

Never said that, learn to read.

All schools were doing it until several years ago.

But noone can even read now so moot point...


Not really. The scope of the judgement was universal tariffs weren't allowed for that specific invocation of IEEPA 50 U.S.C. §§ 1701

The Trump administration immediately invoked Section 122 for a 10% duty on nonexempt imports and announced expanded Section 232 and 301 investigations.


Yup. Tibia you had this too. People begging in the depot for gold and "itens plx"


I've never heard of Tibia, I'll check it out!


I haven't played in 10 years or so, but it's still going.

That game was my life. It's how I learned how to code among many other skills.


Talking to people you are attracted to is how the human race lives on.

And noone knows if you are talking to people "equally" they only know the conversation they are currently in.

I guess you could just hit on everyone. Old, ugly, whatever! Then you won't be a creep.

But in all seriousness, the difference between courting someone and creeping someone out is how attractive you are to them, not the other way around.


Bullshit. That's internet incel horseshit. Have an actual conversation. Get to a point where your sole, entire intention isn't just to con a woman into sleeping with you, and where you like, maybe want to get to know her. Lose the weird, internet pick-up artist intensity.

Like, do random men you talk to think you're a creep? If they do, then maybe it's time to get some life coaching. If not, maybe, just maybe, there's some subtle differences in how you approach people you see as sex toys vs. people you see as, you know, people.


>Get to a point where your sole, entire intention isn't just to con a woman into sleeping with you, and where you like, maybe want to get to know her.

But the point of this exercise isn't to make a deep friendship. It's practice. Is this article inherently creepy?

>Like, do random men you talk to think you're a creep? If they do, then maybe it's time to get some life coaching.

If they do, they're a lot better at hiding it. The big difference is in threat level. I don't see men nor women approach me and think "are they trying to hurt me/hit on me" as a default.


> But the point of this exercise isn't to make a deep friendship. It's practice.

Personally, that wasn't my takeaway. I thought it was more that you and the other person would get some joy out of the interaction. As in, conversations with strangers will be fun, even if you don't end up being friends.


Where did I say not to have an actual conversation?

You can hit on someone and connect with them.

Be nice, connect, open up, share, listen, love. All that shit.

Then you'll get a wife, like myself. Good luck.

Or just make friends, or enemies, whatever floats your boat.


I think we have different grocery habits.

Food, beer, and cat litter would be too heavy for a bike.



How many of those have you seen in the US?

None, because noone wants to bike 5 miles for 3 bags of groceries.


I see loads of those around my neighborhood, usually ferrying kids.

At the same time, I don't need to go 5 miles for groceries, so you might be picturing using a cargo bike in sparse suburbs. If your built environment is car centric then almost definitionally using any other mode of locomotion is going to be subpar.


Maybe a dozen or so? But if you only have 3 bags of groceries you can just use a regular bike + basket.


We’ve moved the goalposts from “Food, beer, and cat litter would be too heavy for a bike.”

Also, my grocery stores are 0.7, 1.1, and 1.6 miles away, not that it matters. 5 miles is just not very much time at 20-28 mph. I think theft and weather/comfort are bigger obstacles to most people than distance.


But that is what we end up needing.

Is the goal post a few groceries you get for a few days?

I have never seen one of these ridiculous looking bikes in any city or anywhere.

Where do y'all live, a Dr. Suess book?

I will not bike them in the rain, With soggy bags and squishy pain.

I will not bike them up the hill, When every pedal feels like drill.

I will not bike them when it’s hot, With sweat that pours and cheese that rots.


> I have never seen one of these ridiculous looking bikes in any city or anywhere. > > Where do y'all live, a Dr. Suess book?

I saw them every day in Chicago. I see them every day in southern Ontario. I saw them whenever I visited Boston or NYC. Where do you live that you don't?

> I will not bike them in the rain, With soggy bags and squishy pain.

> I will not bike them up the hill, When every pedal feels like drill.

> I will not bike them when it’s hot, With sweat that pours and cheese that rots.

Given that other commenters have addressed basically all of these concerns (waterproof bags, electric assist, insulated bags) it seems more like you just want to be contrarian rather than cite specific problems and discuss if they can be solved.


I have an EV as well as an ICE truck. Powertrain is not a concern. It's the load a bike can carry vs a car overall. The bonus of having storage and rain cover is extra. Sure you can do a lite version but why?

I don't want to risk having an injury on a bike either. A car is much safer.


> Powertrain is not a concern. It's the load a bike can carry vs a car overall.

Sure, an automobile will pretty much always win out in raw capacity, but I'd argue it's a policy problem that makes us reliant on automobiles for day to day life. If people only needed a car for their weekly grocery trip but could bike to work or school or the doctor's office that would still significantly reduce our reliance on automobiles, with benefits in health and energy.

> I don't want to risk having an injury on a bike either. A car is much safer.

Also a reasonable concern, but again more of a policy problem: we prioritize cars over pretty much every other form of transportation to the detriment of everyone else in public spaces. If we had more protected walkways / bikeways then everyone would be safer.

In general I don't think we regulate the safe use of automobiles nearly as much as we ought to in the states. Leaving it as an individual concern makes it a race to the bottom, with everyone buying bigger and bigger cars in the name of safety, all other externalities be dammed.


It's ok! They're not for everyone. My contention is just that there exist bicycles perfectly adequate for the weight and volume of your groceries (and mine).


IMO you don't see them in the US because they look, frankly, dorky to an American aesthetic.


The lifted truck is probably the most American vehicle that exists. The style police can rule on which is the greater travesty.


You moved the goalposts, but that also brings up another problem in the US: land use that forcibly segregates different things - like making corner stores illegal in newer suburban developments.


I didn't move a goal post, that is my reality when it comes to groceries.

You realize everyone has different needs right? I stated that in a GP.


I don’t know how often you’re buying cat litter, but carrying food and beer in a pannier on a pedal-powered bike is perfectly reasonable, let alone an ebike


A beer run on an unpowered bike isn’t too bad. 2 six packs and a few snacks is just fine.

Important note: if you put a beer in the bottle holder, give that one away and take another for yourself.


2 six packs is 2 days worth of beer.

I buy 2x 24 packs every 2 weeks, not going to work.

But great, I'll bike that home then go back for groceries. Maybe the "snack" I can fit will fuel me.

Sure I could cut out something I love, my one vice. But that's not very American, a car that can fit all of my stuff is.


Yeah, that’s a heavy load. But hauling 48 beers would soon have you looking like Quadzilla if done regularly.


I live about 3 miles out of town, fortunately directly on a rail trail. I ride my e-bike in to town to get groceries weekly. I have saddlebags on the bike and I pull a kids trailer with the seat folded down and have never run out of room, or had issues with weight. Sometimes I'll even get a few bags of water softener salt. I have a fat tire ebike (aventon), it's pretty sturdy. I've got about 2k miles on the bike, I'd guess half those are from grocery runs.


Pleaser tell me that the bike trail is off road and unpaved.


indeed it is, its a former railbed, crushed gravel. the most dangerous part of the journey is the grocery store parking lot.


You don't think a family of four buys 'food' ? I also get beer occasionally, although sometimes I get it from the corner store a few blocks away.

I do get kitty litter with the car on the occasional trip to Costco because I'm not set on using the bike for every last thing. Just that the eBike makes a lot of things a lot more convenient.


The "food" was a catch-all. Pretty sure that was clear.

Beer and cat litter alone are the heavy items, and don't fit stable in a bike, especially in bad weather.

Plus 2 weeks of groceries, depending on what you need can really add up.

On a bike? Fah-get-a-bout-it. Guess I'd be biking my ass to the store every day.

Or I could live in the present and drive an actual car.

Clearly GP buys 1 day worth of food if he can bike groceries for a family of four.

I had Uber drivers struggle to bike 1 MEAL for my family.


I can get three or four days of food for my family of four on my regular bike with no problem (I also have a cat). I live somewhere where I ride past half a dozen super markets on my regular commute, so stopping at the shop is no big inconvenience.


For years we’ve been grocery shopping with e-bikes and a burley flatpack trailer. The trailer can hold 50kg/100lbs and we used to live up a steep hill. No problem at all. If it fit on the trailer we could haul it back. 52V e-bikes limited to 25km/h.


I'd assume you could get enough points on each to get 500 so you could downvote.

Then you could help control the discussion if you coordinated up/downvotes/flag with your bots.


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