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Im curious — how do ethical and safety conscious manifest themselves there? Is it more cultural or process driven? Do you have any examples?


This appears to be sensationalized. This is the first time I've heard of Civitai, but I perused their website and I found no porn.


Civitai doesn't show the pornographic models/LoRAs unless you're logged in, but it's there.

That being said, the article is an awful sensationalist hit piece. It's as accurate as saying "Andreessen Horowitz Invests in YouTube, Which Profits from Schizophrenics Making Videos of Racist Tirades" or "AH Invests in Github, Which Profits from Software Banned in China and Iran"; true strictly speaking, but completely misrepresenting the purpose of the service.


Everything from 404media is oversensationalized lies.


CivitAI seems to have improved the filtering on the logged out experience, then.

Which, yay, big plus; porn slapping visitors on the face used to be a big deal.

Its still definitely there, and 404 clearly has a paid account since they posted about deliverately violating the nonconsensual porn policy for science with the paid onsite generation services.



There are a lot of porn models and Loras on the site.


What’s a Loras?


From https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.09685:

> LoRA: Low-Rank Adaptation of Large Language Models

> An important paradigm of natural language processing consists of large-scale pre-training on general domain data and adaptation to particular tasks or domains. As we pre-train larger models, full fine-tuning, which retrains all model parameters, becomes less feasible. Using GPT-3 175B as an example -- deploying independent instances of fine-tuned models, each with 175B parameters, is prohibitively expensive. We propose Low-Rank Adaptation, or LoRA, which freezes the pre-trained model weights and injects trainable rank decomposition matrices into each layer of the Transformer architecture, greatly reducing the number of trainable parameters for downstream tasks. Compared to GPT-3 175B fine-tuned with Adam, LoRA can reduce the number of trainable parameters by 10,000 times and the GPU memory requirement by 3 times. LoRA performs on-par or better than fine-tuning in model quality on RoBERTa, DeBERTa, GPT-2, and GPT-3, despite having fewer trainable parameters, a higher training throughput, and, unlike adapters, no additional inference latency.


It's a smaller (space-wise) model that's much easier to train, both computation and input data-wise. It accomplishes a specific style or goal when combined with a full sized model.

An Emma Watson lora: https://civitai.com/models/123338/emma-watson-2010-sdxl?mode...

A lora to add motion trails: https://civitai.com/models/95680/motion-trail-after-image-or...

A lora to add a piano/black and white contrast style to the image: https://civitai.com/models/187675/piano-style-ebony-and-ivor...

If you view Civitai's list of all loras, sorted by most downloaded, you'll see a _lot_ of porn.


A kind of auxiliary model.


The fact remains that there is porn on Civitai.


Which is a good thing for the non-porn SD world, because a lot of the improvements from the base models in human anatomy non-porn-focussed third-party models come from merging porn-focussed models in with other trained models.

(Which parallels the role of nudes is other visual arts domains.)


and? Photoshop also "profits from nonconsensual porn".


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This is how I felt before I found a room I regularly frequent. We meet up once a week for the past 3 weeks, and so far it's 3 consistent participants with 2-3 newcomers each time. I've only met 1 of them in real life. We talk about surfing ;p.

What I've learned is that Clubhouse is only fun if you're participating. Unstructured conversations are hard to follow if you're not actively shaping it.


1. Scientific and rational debate are first class citizens in online communication

2. No speech limitations should be placed on online discussions unless it deviates away from rational debate.

3. Newsfeeds are sorted by popularity AND scientific accuracy.

4. All opinions about an issue, article, or topic are categorized and mapped on a spectrum. Meta data for quick analysis: how does my opinion compare to my peers?


Did Parlor tell you to think that ;) ?


Infantile is a compliment. It suggests creativity and pushing the boundaries. Normally old curmudgeons think young things are empty and stupid because they don’t understand.


Infantile means you don’t have a developed prefrontal cortex and is definitely not a positive description. Creative and playful are not the same concept.


1. My point was to undermine the negative connotation associated with the word infantile. Since when did having an undeveloped prefrontal cortex become absolutely negative? 2. Creative and playful are highly correlated.


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Anger, like any other emotion, is useful until it's not.


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