Since when did wishing for something mean someone is entitled to something?
“I wish it would stop raining.”
“I wish they'd launch it soon.”
Do any of these statements mean the speaker is entitled to something? Since when did wishing for something become a bad thing?
I am not expecting Apple to release anything. I am hoping for swift.org to one day proclaim that the toolchain and the libraries are available on Windows and other platforms. What I am expecting Apple to do is get behind its own language. I mentioned in another post in this thread -- it is not just about technical work. A lot of it has to do with marketing/evangalism. While individual contributors can help, it takes the backing of large company to get something adopted at a large scale. Why do you think Go succeeded while languages like Nim, D etc are not being adopted as well? What I expect from Apple is to spare a couple of people for the purpose of giving talks, writing blogs etc in addition to working on Swift -- something like what Rob Pike et al have been doing for Go. From what I understand, Apple writes a lot of their backend stuff in Java. Perhaps they could start investing in Swift on server side and open source some of the frameworks/libraries they come up with?
> I really am saying if you want to see better Swift support on platform X then start contributing.
I want to get Swift adopted at my workplace for the next project we are working on. I should tell the management I'll start working on it as soon as I get Swift ported to the platform I use. It would go down really well.
What makes you assume I am not contributing in whatever way I can?
> You can take a look at what IBM has been doing in this space, but in general I'm not sure what you are asking for.
IBM has done some good work, alright. But they are the only ones. A lot more work is required If Sipwift were to become a mainstream language.
“I wish it would stop raining.”
“I wish they'd launch it soon.”
Do any of these statements mean the speaker is entitled to something? Since when did wishing for something become a bad thing?
I am not expecting Apple to release anything. I am hoping for swift.org to one day proclaim that the toolchain and the libraries are available on Windows and other platforms. What I am expecting Apple to do is get behind its own language. I mentioned in another post in this thread -- it is not just about technical work. A lot of it has to do with marketing/evangalism. While individual contributors can help, it takes the backing of large company to get something adopted at a large scale. Why do you think Go succeeded while languages like Nim, D etc are not being adopted as well? What I expect from Apple is to spare a couple of people for the purpose of giving talks, writing blogs etc in addition to working on Swift -- something like what Rob Pike et al have been doing for Go. From what I understand, Apple writes a lot of their backend stuff in Java. Perhaps they could start investing in Swift on server side and open source some of the frameworks/libraries they come up with?
> I really am saying if you want to see better Swift support on platform X then start contributing.
I want to get Swift adopted at my workplace for the next project we are working on. I should tell the management I'll start working on it as soon as I get Swift ported to the platform I use. It would go down really well.
What makes you assume I am not contributing in whatever way I can?
> You can take a look at what IBM has been doing in this space, but in general I'm not sure what you are asking for.
IBM has done some good work, alright. But they are the only ones. A lot more work is required If Sipwift were to become a mainstream language.