Scheme is beautiful. Clojure is promising. The JVM is a fine platform, and Java itself is a decent language for the experienced engineer. You don't need Linux to hack in Common Lisp; I have used win32 for my Lisp apps in the last 10 years.
You don't need to make a "modest" salary; I waited tables for $6/hr, and I made six figures .. neither changed my programming ability, Lisp or otherwise, I am still the same kludgemeister.
When did I imply otherwise? I had no idea that I had such ability to be so offensive in things that I neither typed, said, or spake.
Apparently differing opinions are meant to be beaten out through karmic justice.
It also seems that you agree with my assertions that scheme is beautiful and Clojure is promising but not there yet. So you don't disagree with every syllable of it, at least technically.
So wtf with the hostility?
Also, this post was entirely based on my experience.
Keyword: MINE.
I make a modest salary. That's the truth.
$60,000 is not rolling in dough.
Why would you even take issue with that?
Thus far, we learned about your sexual prowess, your tastes in women and your salary. Yet not a single actionable insight or intelligence on Lisp: the subject matter of this thread.
You haven't disagreed with me in a reasonable way. I make a flippant remark about fabled 'lisp enlightenment' and it becomes the entirety of my post?
I gave a (reasonable) guide to my experience with lisp, state that I like REAL macros, say pretty much the same thing that you repeated about scheme (and Clojure), give a brief setup guide to emacs/slime, and say to program a lot (because programming a lot is the only thing that makes you good).
AND SOMEHOW I HAVE ONLY TOLD YOU ABOUT MY DICK AND MY SALARY?
Scheme is beautiful. Clojure is promising. The JVM is a fine platform, and Java itself is a decent language for the experienced engineer. You don't need Linux to hack in Common Lisp; I have used win32 for my Lisp apps in the last 10 years.
You don't need to make a "modest" salary; I waited tables for $6/hr, and I made six figures .. neither changed my programming ability, Lisp or otherwise, I am still the same kludgemeister.