> It can be argued that I did not use the best server side framework, did not know what I was doing, etc. That's actually my point: if doing old style web apps was so much easier, I should have been able to complete it fast without much sweat, no?
Having seen many similar discussions I came to the conclusion this might really be something of a generation gap. For those of us who spent their youth developing web apps back in the day, doing it the "old" way (that fortunately still works) seems natural and easy. And in some cases it's ridilously easy. If your needs are fairly typical (like the CRUD you describe), you might not even need to do that much - Django Admin or Laravel Voyager will take care of these.
No generation gap here. I was building my first web apps in early 2000s as well, with Apache and mod_perl. That was exactly the point of that experiment: hey I recall this stuff was _easy_, I don't need it fancy, let's take the modernest server side framework and go for it.
No thanks, not gonna do that ever again. Rosy glasses are rosy, and cleanly separated client side app + back end API is clean and separated.
> For those of us who spent their youth developing web apps back in the day, doing it the "old" way (that fortunately still works) seems natural and easy.
Spent my youth doing it the old way. Much rather use either React for nontrivial apps, still, now.
Having seen many similar discussions I came to the conclusion this might really be something of a generation gap. For those of us who spent their youth developing web apps back in the day, doing it the "old" way (that fortunately still works) seems natural and easy. And in some cases it's ridilously easy. If your needs are fairly typical (like the CRUD you describe), you might not even need to do that much - Django Admin or Laravel Voyager will take care of these.