> But if you're not finding developers, then its higher than whatever you're offering. And if it's in major tech metros (SV, Seattle + Eastside) it's close to FAANG levels.
This is not entirely true. People aren't finding developers because most of them failed the interview (unless you are digital agencies).
In major tech metros, nobody pay close to FAANG levels. Either you pay at FAANG levels (and they compete at that level) or you go down one-tier (Pinterest, Airbnb, etc) or you're the rest.
> In major tech metros, nobody pay close to FAANG levels. Either you pay at FAANG levels (and they compete at that level) or you go down one-tier (Pinterest, Airbnb, etc) or you're the rest.
Contrast this with your original comment in this chain:
> FAANG just shoot everybody expectation to the roof and non-FAANG is having hard time to compete in salary (sure, there are some exception but they are exceptions).
If what you say is true, that most companies don't pay close to FAANG levels, then why are non-FAANG companies having a hard time to compete?
Unemployment in software is near zero. You insist that few companies are paying close to FAANG levels, yet at the same time say that non-FAANG companies are having trouble attracting talent. If a company is having a hard time attracting talent at their current compensation levels, then this indicates that their current compensation levels are not competitive (assuming other factors are the same).
Ultimately, the price of labor is whatever people are willing to pay. If workers can get better pay for the same work elsewhere, then the company is going to have trouble staffing - and that's natural.
> that most companies don't pay close to FAANG levels, then why are non-FAANG companies having a hard time to compete?
Hard time to hire engineers according to their bar. Their bar is high (FAANG level) but they don't pay FAANG level so this is interesting => They don't want to lower the bar (rightfully so) and nobody wants to be perceived as "FAANG" reject.
> You insist that few companies are paying close to FAANG levels
Few? I'd say they're "exceptions" (like Uber... for a while before they laid people off) and the rest aren't even close.
This is not entirely true. People aren't finding developers because most of them failed the interview (unless you are digital agencies).
In major tech metros, nobody pay close to FAANG levels. Either you pay at FAANG levels (and they compete at that level) or you go down one-tier (Pinterest, Airbnb, etc) or you're the rest.