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The other side of this is how so many people starting or running companies still dont have a realistic view of what to pay engineers.

They're pricing a budget out to rationalize an equity raise and are completely inept at what is necessary to get their highly specialized engineers.

Sure there are a lot of engineers working at noncompetitive companies making 80-180k and lower outside of the bay area.

But if you expect to spend less time on recruiting and less time on attritition for your skillset that only exists in the bay area or HFT firms, wake tf up!



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