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> M1 completely obliterates the competition for laptops

IMO, you are both wrong. The M1 is fine as a laptop CPU, because what it needs to do well, it does very well - which is power efficiency. However, if what you need is computational power, and you don't particularly prioritize power consumption, then the M1 not only does not obliterate the competition, it significantly under-performs. And this is before you add in a dedicated GPU that solves some of those tasks much, much faster.

Take Cinebench R23, where M1 Pro (10+16) has about the same performance as the top contenders that do not have dedicated GPU cores, e.g. Ryzen 9 5900HX and Core i9-11980HK. Throw in a dedicated GPU for a work task that can properly utilize it, and the performance difference is at least 3x that of the M1.

Now, I'm not saying that the M1 is bad. It's just that.... "Completely obliterates the competition for laptops" is a strange way to describe "yeah, if both systems do very little, the M1 will use much less power!". For many, this results in it being the best laptop CPU for the tradeoffs they want, especially if the MacOS is an added positive.

However, that the M1 competes and outperforms in terms of computation performance, would be just wrong.



Which is why I specifically said laptops, where workloads tend to be of the kind that benefits from efficiency. You're right that there are many workloads that they are not perfect for. Hoping that the second generation addresses some of these issues, but as a web developer M1 is already pretty damn great.

Obliterates was a bit strong I guess hehe.


Then it's all good :)

It's not uncommon to hear unrealistic praise of the M1 on HN.




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