I'm going off the warranty - if it was really that good they'd offer better warranty, no? Speaking of the Nissan Leaf, upon searching I came across a forum post (https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=32426) claiming they're down to 60% in 6 years. Pretty bad, no? Obviously anecdotal but my original post was conservative to begin with.
Why do you answer "yes" when the answer is obviously "no"? No, 60k miles is not a good estimate for how long ICE powertrains usually last. Truly baffling reasoning.
Another example: iPhones have a 1-year warranty but usually last much longer than that.
It's an apples to apples comparison. Anything else is just cherry picking. There are plenty of cars that can't go 60K miles without some part of the powertrain needing maintenance. The question is how long something lasts without needing any repair. The warranty is a good approximation of this. Obviously with constant repair things can last much longer.
> The question is how long something lasts without needing any repair. The warranty is a good approximation of this.
No, it's not. That's why some manufacturers offer much longer warranties than others despite having similar reliability numbers. Warranty terms are driven by the business and encompass a lot more than mean time to first failure.
> iPhones are irrelevant to the discussion, lol.
If warranties were a good approximation of how long things last without repair, why would that only apply in the car world?
> No, it's not. That's why some manufacturers offer much longer warranties than others despite having similar reliability numbers. Warranty terms are driven by the business and encompass a lot more than mean time to first failure.
What's an example of this controlled for the price of the car?
> If warranties were a good approximation of how long things last without repair, why would that only apply in the car world?
Warranties are a good approximation in the context of cars. Virtually all other consumer devices have a 1 year warranty so it's not really a distinguishing feature.
In any case, warranty aside the reason I even brought it up is because many manufacturers warranties imply potential for up to 30% degradation after about 8 years which is why I used the numbers I used (https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/how-long-do-ev-batter...)
According to Consumer Reports, Lexus is the most reliable brand and Lincoln is the least reliable. Cars from these brands are similarly priced. Both of them offer a 4/50 basic warranty and a 6/70 powertrain warranty.
They are obliged to offer a warranty that qualifies them to take the Federal Clean Air credits and commensurate with the mandated warranty on emission control devices. (An EV’s battery is an emission control device.)
Any decision to offer a warranty beyond that is driven by whether it will entice new car buyers to buy the car or to pay more for it.
