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What Is Radio Spectrum? (transportation.gov)
55 points by ZunarJ5 on July 20, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 29 comments


Something I've had a longstanding desire to learn about is radio frequencies. I'm a very visual person, but I have yet to find any resource that explains it in a way that really makes sense to me. Especially when you start getting into modulation and whatnot. I'm fortunate to be able to use a variety of wireless technologies at work (licensed 80GHz, 18GHz and 950MHz frequencies), but I admittedly only have basic working knowledge and don't clearly comprehend what's happening at the lower physical level.

Does anyone have a good recommendation on any material that really made wireless technology understandable for you?


There's no all in one stop for understanding radio but these 5 resources helped me a lot.

The RF Get Down courses. This is by far the best material online to learn RF and how modulation works: https://www.youtube.com/@rfgetdown/videos

3blue1brown's video tutorial on the fourier transform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUNpyF58BY

AT&T Archives: Similiarities of Wave Behavior http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k

Quadrature Signals: Complex, But Not Complicated by Richard Lyons, https://dspguru.com/files/QuadSignals.pdf https://dspguru.com/dsp/tutorials/quadrature-signals/

Antenna Theory's website and forums, https://www.antenna-theory.com/antennas/main.php

I also highly recommend getting a $20 rtl-sdr USB software defined radio dongle. They're great toys for learning RF, what modulation is, and exploring the spectrum.


A 20$ RTL-SDR will give you a very broad view of the spectrum and an idea of how one area can be quiet, the other filled with signals and the oddities of atmospheric noise, etc. Super fun and there are 100,000 YouTube videos on how to get it working.

https://www.amazon.com/NooElec-NESDR-Mini-Compatible-Package...


I would argue that a $0 web-sdr bookmark will teach you exactly the same things without you forever wondering if it's your antennae that's the problem.


You sort of back-handedly made a case for using your own antenna to better understand radio. :-)


Oh, there is absolutely a case for trying your own antennae, and experimenting with various antenna topologies, to understand radio.

The issue is if it's the first thing a newbie should be doing while also trying to work out if their USB dongle works at all :D


Very true... only issue is that you wont receive any local signals if there's no local web-SDR in your area.


Where do you find these? Is there an online library?


websdr.org has a huge list. You can find a few more via google.


One place to start peeling the onion is amature radio. In the US, see: https://www.arrl.org/

Introduction to spectrum, freq allocation (bands) and modes.



Hardware to play with:

1) HackRF : https://greatscottgadgets.com/sdr/

2) RF Explorer : https://j3.rf-explorer.com/

You also need to study Physics (Electromagnetics) and Electronics (Communication Electronics). Checkout both popular textbooks and general audience books.

For a absolute beginner a good place to start is The Essential Guide to RF and Wireless by Carl Weisman.



awesome, I found an open websdr at the olympia tower in munich :)


It depends how far down you want to look. At the bottom is Maxwell's equations.


I thought that too, but things get weird when you try to separate 'electron-magnetism' and photonics.

If you try to understand WHY a metal outer electron shell will shed a photon, you'll come up empty handed. And with electricity, the electrons move around from one side to the other. Except, do they? What exactly happens at an antenna interface?

And why do we call it the EM spectrum, when the actual carriers are photons?

It's the quantum-EM interactions that I think would make Maxwell's explanation why the equations work as they do make more sense. But even simple stuff in RF makes people evoke ideas of 'black magic'.


Download GNU Radio and implement modulation blocks by yourself. You can use it to simulate systems, without buying any hardware. You can write blocks in Python or C++.

I don't recommend getting real hardware. Cheap software define radios will only work in uninteresting frequencies like AM / FM. You need way, way more expensive equipment to work with Wifi / 4G systems.


> Cheap software define radios will only work in uninteresting frequencies like AM / FM

There’s quite a bit interesting stuff to listen to on cheap hardware.

With a $20 dongle:

- Local police/fire

- Marine bands

- Watch airplanes transmitting ADSB

- Follow trunked radios in the area (more police depts are doing this)

- Receive NOAA weather images

- Pagers operate here, but legally this gets dicy

Beyond this, addons like the Ham it Up upconverter can bring you Ham bands for a little more money and a lot more entertainment.

And there’s a lot of other misc stuff to explore.

Working with 4G systems is a whole other ball of wax anyway, and also gets into legally challenging territory.

If the goal is to learn more about radio and find some interesting stuff going on in your area, a cheap dongle provides a lot of value and fun.

I definitely can’t agree that this requires expensive equipment.


It always bothered me seeing "ultrasonics" and "audible range" being listed in the same spectrum as microwaves and light. We can't hear it, audio is not part of the electromagnetic spectrum. They could mention submarine comms instead.


The audio and EMR spectra may be different underlying phenomena, but for the purposes of radio, which transmits over EMR but encodes audio frequencies, the correspondence is significant. It's not possible to encode a higher-frequency signal over a lower frequency carrier, so radio frequencies which are used for the transmission of human-detectable sounds must be at a higher frequency than those sounds.

I'm not nearly enough of a radio / audio / encoding geek to tell you what the minimum overage is, though I suspect it's at least 2x greater than the highest-frequency sounds that are intended to be encoded. For human-range hearing, that would be in the 10-20 kHz range, which would mean that a minimum carrier frequency would be somewhere around 20--40 kHz.

The longest wavelengths used for voice comms so far as I know are the longwave or LW band, which is from 30–300 kHz, with the lower end of that pretty much precisely where I'd suggested it might be.

Most commercial AM broadcasts are in the medium-wave (MW) band, from 531 kHz – 1602 kHz, or roughly 25-50x higher frequencies than the highest tones the human ear can detect. And I'd suspect that fidelity above 10kHz audio is not especially high even at those transmission frequencies.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_broadcasting#Broadcast_band...>


"radio, which transmits over EMR but encodes audio frequencies"

Radio conveys all sorts of things, not just audio. They're orthogonal issues.

And you actually could modulate 20khz BW of audio onto a 30khz carrier using SSB-AM for example. That carrier could be EM, a voltage in a wire or an ultrasonic tone. Not that it's relevant to the issue but it does reinforce the point that the nature of the medium is independent from the intelligence being conveyed. There is no correspondence. Sonics/audio are pressure waves and do not belong on the EM spectrum.


> It's not possible to encode a higher-frequency signal over a lower frequency carrier..

Actually it is possible. AM modulation is just a matter of multiplying two frequencies together. It's just that the lower sidebands wrap around DC. It's a bit harder to demodulate, but not impossible.

>.. AM broadcasts are in the medium-wave (MW) band...And I'd suspect that fidelity above 10kHz audio is not especially high even at those transmission frequencies.

In the transmitter the fidelity is limited by the bandwidth of the modulator, and in the Receiver by the bandwidth of the IF stage. You can actually get FM like audio from a BC AM radio, but not with cheap and nasty receivers designed for the American market. In Europe many HiFI AM receivers have an optional "wide" IF filter, and the transmitters can transmit 15KHz audio.


"In the transmitter the fidelity is limited by the bandwidth of the modulator, and in the Receiver by the bandwidth of the IF stage."

This applies to heterodyne systems with the bandwidth limitation coming from deliberate filtering.

My understanding is the channel width, set out in the broadcast standard and license, is the bottleneck and not so much the limitations of the electronics. FM must be under 150khz (5 times the maximum source bandwidth of 15khz, then doubled for upper and lower sidebands) and MW-AM must be under 9/10khz (limiting the source to around 5 kHz). So without the transmitter broadcasting outside its allocation, I don't understand how changing the receiver could improve the audio quality.

I could be wrong. Do you have a source on 15khz audio bandwidth over MW-AM?


There is no direct connection between the channel spacing, and the allowed TX bandwidth.

If the bandwidth is wider than the channel spacing (for AM BC), all that happens is that adjacent stations hear a little "monkey chatter". And that is minimised because most stations are arranged on a geographic grid which prevents a local station having another local on an adjacent channel.

In Australia the local Government ABC stations most definitely do transmit 15KHz wide audio.

A quick search turned up this article from September 1980 ETI magazine which discusses stations having 30KHz total bandwidth. https://imgur.com/a/gVpSwoo

Whatever, just tuning around with a high-end SDR shows many stations at 20KHz bandwidth.

The Commercial stations have a problem in that they use aggressive audio processing in order to maximise their coverage, given their licensed power output. So as soon as the commercials decided to concentrate on talk shows, they wound down their bandwidth.


AM modulation is just a matter of multiplying two frequencies together.

Pardon my limited knowledge here, but isn't amplitude modulation actually the practice of varying the amplitude of the carrier frequency alone?

FM, frequency modulation, by contrast does vary the frequency of the carrier itself, which can be modeled mathematically as a function of two (or more) frequencies being combined as with Fourier analysis.


I think there is some confusion here mixing up the time and frequency domains. The poster above is correct that AM is achieved by multiplying the intelligence with a carrier. This changes a carrier's amplitude which must (as indicated as a Fourier series) generate sidebands, which occupy frequencies around the carrier frequency. FM is produced differently but also generates (wider) sidebands.


True, but on the other hand, you also can’t see VHF or microwave radiation!

Yes, it’s a different medium, but for VLF/ELF, you could arguably just connect a photodiode/photoreceptor and a speaker/microphone to a very simple circuit and “hear/speak” that part of the spectrum, no?


Our capacity to sense some frequencies, or build transducers or transceivers for them is a complication that's beside my point. Audio, including infra/ultrasonics does not belong in a diagram labelled The EM Spectrum. ELF, VHF, microwave and light etc. all do.


> you also can’t see VHF or microwave radiation!

True, but you can definitely see some frequencies of electromagnetic radiation (light is electromagnetic radiation, just at a very large frequency). A 525 nm green LED is just emitting a signal at a frequency of 571 THz... which you can actually see.

On the other hand, 40 kHz sound (ultrasound) and 40 kHz radio signals (LF, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_frequency) are definitely not on the same spectrum, one being made of changes in air pressure, the other one by an electromagnetic field.




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