They were just a pipe, you had to spend dollars through a different vendor and used oracle stuff as an add on.

So you didn't have to make a contract with oracle?

Big spenders made contracts for reduced pricing, but anyone could use oracle data with a few clicks (most wouldn’t even know the data was going through Oracle). That was a big issue when I was there - execs could not handle not being able to predict revenue and so they wanted every big spender on contract, so they reduced prices for them. Then we stopped providing support for anyone who wasn’t on a named account list.