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Planned malice. They simply hate "lib shit" and want liberals to suffer. The left likes solar and wind so actively placing barriers in the way of solar and wind is a way of saying "fuck you, libs" and kicking sand in their faces.

My aunt is a conservative lobbyist. She is also a drunk. This means that she gets drunk and texts my family her real feelings all the time. She is absolutely 100% motivated by hate. That's it. She has told her sister to kill herself because she's on government benefits. She has told my mom that she should be thrown in prison for going to an anti-Trump protest. She has told her own daughter that she'd be better off dead than bisexual. Her daughter has attempted suicide twice.

She is not motivated by some actual policy outcome. She is not motivated by trying to help people just through some different mechanism than the left would use. She is not motivated by libertarian ideals. She is motivated by hate.



This is true, but the funny part is, it's only going to impact red states. PNW/California already get most of their power from low carbon sources. Illinois has the largest fleet of commercial nuclear generators, and subsidizes it. NYISO gets a bunch of clean hydro power from Canada and some fossil gas. Is industry going to build where power costs are higher out of stupidity? Unlikely. "Stop hitting yourself."

As another comment mentioned, this is immaterial at the rate at which solar PV and batteries are being manufactured, it just makes electricity more costly (an additional tax) until we get to the future.

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/72h/hourly (center on US)


It doesn't matter.

Outright banning solar and wind in red states and then watching as power generation companies flee to blue states as these energy sources outcompete fossil fuels in the marketplace doesn't matter. They still got to say "fuck you, libs." That's all that matters. Pointing out how this hurts their own voters won't change anything because the thing they want is not actually human flourishing. The thing they want is "fuck you, libs" and they got that already.


Hurting the voters in this way is a win for Republicans though.

They can use it as a wedge issue.

Look, Republicans in Republican states, they're leaving you without jobs and giving your jobs to immigrants. See, slightly red but mostly purple States? This is what will happen to you. And the energy companies take the blame, not legislators.

Politics today is ruled by cynicism.


I don't even believe that this matters. I don't think the motivation is based on "hey we can use this as a strategy to get re-elected." I truly believe that the motivation is "fuck you, libs" and nothing deeper. Even if it makes them less likely to retain power they'll still do it. Because they got to spit on the left.

That's not cynicism. That's brute honesty.


You’re not wrong, we’re just waiting for voters to age out (~2M 55+ every year, ~5k per day). Angry, irrational, uneducated people will not be swayed, nor change their mind or their vote. We just keep powering forward through the molasses. It is what it is. Change what you can, ignore what you cannot.


With health technology they'll live until 100 costing an disproportionate amount of money through government heathcare while continuing to vote Republican


I think you'll find this social science paper relevant and lightening. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.1600451


The data is kind of misleading. Texas actually produces almost twice as much solar + wind power as California. The %mix is lower because Californians don’t have to run AC and heat year-round, so power demand per capita is way lower as a function of geography rather than policy.


I accounted for that in the comment you replied to. Texas has a voracious appetite for power due to data centers, manufacturing, and air conditioning, and impairing new renewables will hurt Texas more than California. Energy policy is in direct opposition to Texas' need for inexpensive, low carbon power due to their higher per capita consumption. Texas should be doing everything in its power to support the deployment of renewables, but out of ideology at the federal and state levels, they are not.

California is ahead of the curve by having built renewables and batteries before this policy change, while other states will be stuck with suboptimal energy policy for at least the next half decade, increasing their cost of power. California is also the world's fourth largest economy with the energy system they have built.

https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/US-CAL-CISO/12mo/monthl...

https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/us-electricity-2025...

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/califo...

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/04/23/california-is-now-the-4th-...


Texas has significantly more heavy industry than California which probably makes up more of the power delta than AC usage.


Just block. Life's too short to deal with people like this.


Unfortunately we cannot. She is actively stealing my grandparents' remaining money and taking legal steps to gain legal and economic control over my other aunt's life once my grandparents die.

My family would absolutely love to go no-contact with her. But if she ends up with guardianship of my other aunt once my grandparents pass then she'll be sentenced to suffer and die.


Also it sounds like that contact should be helping you for any eventual guardianship hearings. You are keeping a log with the exact date, time, and content of things like "She has told her sister to kill herself", right?


Yes.

But unfortunately being a republican lobbyist means a couple things. She is extremely persuasive and she is friends with some relevant government officials.


Yeah, I guess I threw that out in the hope that there will be justice, even though the trend is clearly in favor of corruption.

I don't envy your situation, or your mom's, at all.


My aunt is a conservative lobbyist. She is also a drunk.

That started out grimly funny but got more and more depressing as I read on. Dealing with that can't be easy.


If only you can dig up some dirt and get her imprisoned. That seems to be the only way out of this mess.


1) Assert what you want - gotta know e.g. "I want kind people in my life"

2) Enforce your boundaries


Sounds like it would be easy to get her on a drunk-driving charge.


You continue to talk to your aunt which validates her opinions.


You can see my other comment which explains why we cannot safely go no contact with her.


Wow, that is unbelievably degenerate. I'll never understand how someone can pidgeon-hole themselves into an identity like that.


Sounds like she’s a mean drunk? Or maybe she has her own trauma that you’re not aware of. Sort of a dehumanizing picture you paint.

It sounds like your broader point is that conservatives are all stupid and motivated by hatred. I kind of feel like you have plenty of your own hatred though but seem sort of blind to it.


I have dealt with her for my entire life.

My mother has dealt with her for her entire life.

I assure you that I am not missing some hidden trauma that complicates my aunt. What I described above is just a taste of the harm she's done to people.


Trauma is not an excuse or justification for the level of hatred described and especially not for years.

Unless someone is completely incapable of rational action (which has happened to me), there’s some level of personal responsibility involved.

I wouldn’t argue that conservatives are stupid and motivated by hatred. However, many people voted for a campaign of blatant hate and an explicitly stated desire for revenge. This definitely colors your view of anyone that doesn’t think this is a bad thing.


The left's hate is in response.

You seem to happily ignore who started this garbage, who's responsible for the orange shit stain on the entire country, who yelled "Fuck your feelings" when anyone disagreed, who refused to wear a mask to possibly prevent infections, but is quite happy to see their idiocy forced upon anyone else.




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